So nobody is mentioning the missile launch off the California coast?

[Yonivore]

Forget capability. Reaction tells you it was the US. Either that or we should be extremely worried with our defenses.

At the moment, I'm extremely worried. I don't recall the military ever responding this way.

[Sportcamper]

Whinehole-Rocketdyne of Canoga Park/ Chatsworth CA had plenty of misguided missiles that fell safely in the Pacific Ocean…Growing up in Canoga Park we saw them all the time…One time however a missile did fly in the flight path of the jets landing at LAX…

Rocketdyne of Canoga Park/ Chatsworth CA is also responsible for the worst atomic pollution in the U.S…I don’t want to scare you guys all at once with this information…An hour ago you never even heard of Rocketdyne…

You can do your own research on the nuclear sub that dragged down a barge on its way to Catalina to transport rocks for home building in LA… The boat was dragged backward the Crew was dragged below & somebody drowned….Those Subs are so powerful that it traveled for miles before the Captain realized that something was slowing it down…(I think the Sub was called Houston)...

[ChumpDumper]

At the moment, I'm extremely worried. I don't recall the military ever responding this way.

When is the last time something like this happened?

What did they do then?

[clambake]

could have been from JPL. those companies have worked projects together.

[Yonivore]

Whinehole-Rocketdyne of Canoga Park/ Chatsworth CA had plenty of misguided missiles that fell safely in the Pacific Ocean…Growing up in Canoga Park we saw them all the time…One time however a missile did fly in the flight path of the jets landing at LAX…

Rocketdyne of Canoga Park/ Chatsworth CA is also responsible for the worst atomic pollution in the U.S…I don’t want to scare you guys all at once with this information…An hour ago you never even heard of Rocketdyne…

You can do your own research on the nuclear sub that dragged down a barge on its way to Catalina to transport rocks for home building in LA… The boat was dragged backward the Crew was dragged below & somebody drowned….Those Subs are so powerful that it traveled for miles before the Captain realized that something was slowing it down…(I think the Sub was called Houston)...

If that's the case, it'd be nice if someone from Rocketdyne would confirm it.

[RandomGuy]

At the moment, I'm extremely worried. I don't recall the military ever responding this way.

That is because this is probably the first such incident you have heard about.

If you read the article in the OP, it seemed to happen frequently enough for the guy they asked to remember it.

Since it was simply routine muscle-flexing, it seems to be a non-issue.

[Yonivore]

That is because this is probably the first such incident you have heard about.

If you read the article in the OP, it seemed to happen frequently enough for the guy they asked to remember it.

Since it was simply routine muscle-flexing, it seems to be a non-issue.

Maybe no so routine?

China to Tighten Control on Inflows of Overseas Funds

Volcker Says No Quick Way To Cut US Unemployment

On Tuesday, a Chinese official speaking before Volcker at the financial forum repeated Beijing's criticism of the move.

"If the United States can increase the volume of dollars and it can transmit inflation to other countries to lessen the pressure of debt, then it will bring about a catastrophic influence on the world," said Cheng Siwei, a deputy chairman of China's legislature.

I think China is pissed over our economic policy. Could have been, "Hey, America, look out the left side of your country. Now, quit ing with the global economy."

Why didn't we scramble jets? Why has there been no speculation over where the missile went?

[RandomGuy]

Maybe no so routine?

China to Tighten Control on Inflows of Overseas Funds

Volcker Says No Quick Way To Cut US Unemployment


I think China is pissed over our economic policy. Could have been, "Hey, America, look out the left side of your country. Now, quit ing with the global economy."

Why didn't we scramble jets? Why has there been no speculation over where the missile went?

You know, if you weren't such a hack, I might think your concerns were genuine.

As it is, I get the impression that you sense that there is some spin you can put on this to somehow embarass Democrats, or Obama in particular.

If the US Navy did it,then why would we scramble jets after our own missile?

You sound nothing so much as the Twoofers who are "just asking questions" with tenuous connections to recent news.

[Yonivore]

You know, if you weren't such a hack, I might think your concerns were genuine.

As it is, I get the impression that you sense that there is some spin you can put on this to somehow embarass Democrats, or Obama in particular.

If the US Navy did it,then why would we scramble jets after our own missile?

You sound nothing so much as the Twoofers who are "just asking questions" with tenuous connections to recent news.

If the Navy did it, the military would have had a story...something other than, "beats us?"

[MannyIsGod]

Its no wonder people like Yoni led us into a pointless war.

[boutons_deux]

“Mystery missile” was probably an aircraft, government says


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...ment-says.html

[ElNono]

Los Angeles, California (CNN) -- The Pentagon is unable to explain images of what witnesses took to be a high-al ude rocket launched off the coast of southern California at sunset Monday, officials said.

But John Pike, a defense expert who is director of GlobalSecurity.org, said he believes he has solved the mystery.

"It's clearly an airplane contrail," Pike said Tuesday afternoon. "It's an optical illusion that looks like it's going up, whereas in reality it's going towards the camera. The tip of the contrail is moving far too slowly to be a rocket. When it's illuminated by the sunset, you can see hundreds of miles of it ... all the way to the horizon.

"Why the government is so badly organized that they can't get somebody out there to explain it and make this story go away ... I think that's the real story," Pike added. "I mean, it's insane that with all the money we are spending, all these technically competent people, that they can't get somebody out there to explain what is incredibly obvious."

A U.S. Northern Command official who didn't want to be identified said the contrail could very well be from an airplane. An "illusion" effect made the contrail appear as if it's rising straight up, but it's actually level, the official said. The event is similar to another sighting around New Year's Eve in which observers believed they witnessed a missile, he said.



link

[Yonivore]

If it were traveling toward the camera wouldn't it have eventually passed overhead?

Just sayin'

And, in one of the video, it clearly looks like fire coming from the engine.

Sorry, I'm not convinced.

Pentagon Can't Explain "Missile" off California

CBS station KFMB showed video of the apparent missile to former U.S. Ambassador to NATO Robert Ellsworth, who is also a former Deputy Secretary of Defense, to get his thoughts.

"It's spectacular… It takes people's breath away," said Ellsworth, calling the projectile, "a big missile".

Clearly, however, the "jet contrail" narrative is getting traction.

[Yonivore]

Should be pretty easy to verify with LAX Air Traffic Control whether or not an aircraft was occupying that airspace at that time. No?

[Pistons < Spurs]

Should be pretty easy to verify with LAX Air Traffic Control whether or not an aircraft was occupying that airspace at that time. No?

Wouldn't it be even easier to know if it was in fact a missile? I would think (hope) that a missile going off would light up all sorts of screens in numerous defense and military installations across the country. Wouldn't commercial and public instrumentation also be able to pick up a missile firing? Don't know.

I don't think the govt. is always forthcoming and honest with the people, but in this case I'm going with the airplane story rather than a launch either on purpose or accidentally.

[Yonivore]

Wouldn't it be even easier to know if it was in fact a missile? I would think (hope) that a missile going off would light up all sorts of screens in numerous defense and military installations across the country. Wouldn't commercial and public instrumentation also be able to pick up a missile firing? Don't know.

I don't think the govt. is always forthcoming and honest with the people, but in this case I'm going with the airplane story rather than a launch either on purpose or accidentally.

I have no idea.

All the intelligence blogs I'm reading say they "hope" it's innocuous but, the event doesn't neatly fit into any of the narratives being advanced so far.

[ChumpDumper]

Popdamn, yoni is a conspiracy theorist!

I'm going with a plane.

[Winehole23]

Rocketdyne of Canoga Park/ Chatsworth CA is also responsible for the worst atomic pollution in the U.S…I don’t want to scare you guys all at once with this information…An hour ago you never even heard of Rocketdyne…

Scared of Rocketdyne? In Austin, TX?

Should I be?

Nevertheless, there's nothing funny at all about ignorance. Thanks, Sportcamper, for expanding on a topic I know basically zilch about.

You can do your own research on the nuclear sub that dragged down a barge on its way to Catalina to transport rocks for home building in LA… The boat was dragged backward the Crew was dragged below & somebody drowned….Those Subs are so powerful that it traveled for miles before the Captain realized that something was slowing it down…(I think the Sub was called Houston)...

Again, thanks for the relevant details.

[Winehole23]

All the intelligence blogs I'm reading say they "hope" it's innocuous but, the event doesn't neatly fit into any of the narratives being advanced so far.

Do you mind naming them?

[Winehole23]

Since you're kinda talking about what
<all the intelligence blogs you're reading>
say, it'd be a courtesy to us and to them to provide the sources, so we can tell your bs from theirs.



Thanks.

[MannyIsGod]

@ intelligence blogs.

Over at KGB.blogspot.com

Seriously these ers like Yoni are afraid of their own shadow. He's the type of person (and I"m not even kidding here) that was all over the Bush admin. No surprise we went to war at all.

In fact I bet he and the Bush admin used the same Intelligence blogs for their info.

[Winehole23]

(Zero, one or two sites. Three at the outside.)

[Wild Cobra]

besides, wc said he knows where all the nukes are.

Liar.

Show me where I said that.

Past knowledge does not equal present knowledge of changing locations.

[Yonivore]

Do you mind naming them?

When I quote 'em, I'll name and link 'em.

[Wild Cobra]

@rjv:

Very much like WC taking the word of Obama's chief counsel for the BP spill commission, as gospel truth.

(The US Government is the primo journalistic source for US journalism.)

Any thoughts I have are just guesses. I only heard a short fact that there was a missile yesterday. Never followed up since, and my last visit here was before this thread started.

I think it's safe to say that it came from a Submarine or destroyer. Of what flag? No telling, but it probably was ours. I'll bet from the launch location, the odds of catching a glimpse of it were small. Chance video.