Why would Philly want Butler though? They want more than an expiring contract. Especially when they are trying to rebuild around Holiday and Turner.
maybe throw in some picks or Dominique Jones and Ajinca in there as well. what better offers look possible out there? what other teams could use Iggy on their roster, while having assets to give up that the Mavs have (cap space, picks, and youthful talent)
isn't it ironic how they both beat LA to get rings lol
Yeah, let's throw in one of our only 2 young talents as a trash filler, for absolutely no good reason at all. You know, just to make it a little more "fair" of a trade
if they wont accept Butler alone, but would accept Butler and Jones, I'd do that in a heartbeat. Iggy is still very young himself, and is also a proven player in the NBA, someone who can be effective at scoring inside, outside, rebounding, and passing. his athletic ability is sick, and he is a very good defender too.Yeah, let's throw in one of our only 2 young talents as a trash filler, for absolutely no good reason at all. You know, just to make it a little more "fair" of a trade
I'm pretty sure the 6ers would give him up for cap relief..he's been on the trading block for almost 2 years now..at first, they tried to use him to move Brand, but it's pretty obvious that nobody will take that deal..
This year, they've been rumored to move him again, this time, alone(started with the Luol Deng rumors)..the 6ers are rebuilding, and they will have another high lottery pick next year either way, so it doesn't make sense to keep Iguodala, especially since he doesn't seem as interestes in playing there as he once was(based on his relative lack of effort at times)..
I highly doubt any team will give up any quality prospects for him, since most teams with quality prospects aren't contenders or fringe contenders, and why would any team want Iggy when they don't have potential le aspirations?..
Dallas' cap relief will be a good enough deal IMO..if they throw in a 1st, I'd say it's a lock..
Butler, Jones and Ajinca for Iggy? I do it in a heartbeat. Add Noci and Stevenson and the Sixers have the biggest possible cap relief beside untradeable Brand.
Resign Chandler for ~7 a year and no one need Ajinca or Jones anyway
If the 76ers would take Butler straight up, I would also offer a 1st rounder if they will take Barea off our hands too. Getting him off the roster instantly makes the Mavericks a better basketball team.
The Rockets.
Butler and Jones? Houston could offer Battier (expiring), Jeffries (expiring); young talent in Jordan Hill, Budinger, Brooks (with the emergence of Ish Smith, Brooks is becoming expendable), Patrick Patterson, and Jermaine Taylor. The Rockets could also offer their right to swap with the Knicks in 2011, as well as the Knicks 2012 first round pick...not to mention the Rockets' own draft picks in those drafts. I think Houston could offer a better offer than Dallas, and not just because I'm a Rockets fan.
Battier and Jeffries have no resign/S&T value, Brooks has less value for the Sixers because they have Holiday as their future PG and Budinger/Hill/Patterson are average talents.
So wouldnt say hey can offer a much better package.
But why would Philly even resign Butler, when they want to go young? Butler would hold the same values as Battier and Jeffries. And who is Philly going to sign and trade for anyway? Brooks has less value, but maybe the Sixers give up Lou Williams? You never know. And Budinger, Hill, Taylor, and Patterson are average talents? So, Jones for the Mavs is better? They'd take Jones over Budinger and Hill? Interesting.
Sixers doesnt need Butler for rebuilding but if has a at least "normal" season then he has a higher S&T value than Battier and Jeffries for sure.
And i didnt say that Jones is a better talent than Budinger or Patterson, i just said thesy are average talents (and Jones is in best case an average talent).
And If Anthony lands until next summer in NY the 2012 pick is quickly just an average pick and nothing really great. Same with this season.
So sure the Rockets could pull a nice package together but i shouldnt overvalue every asset. Just that.
But who are the Sixers going to sign and trade for? I don't think they will be looking to do that with anybody. They just want to acquire young talent around Holiday/Turner and more draft picks to help with that.
But Budinger is only an average talent now. He is still on a pretty cheap contract and has a high ceiling. Not to mention he has already shown that he can play in this league. Hill is the same way (look at his stat line the last game). There have been 13 NBA teams who have contacted the Rockets about Jermaine Taylor this season and he doesn't even play. Patterson was the lottery pick and I think he won't be traded if a trade does go down.And i didnt say that Jones is a better talent than Budinger or Patterson, i just said thesy are average talents (and Jones is in best case an average talent).
And If Anthony lands until next summer in NY the 2012 pick is quickly just an average pick and nothing really great. Same with this season.
So sure the Rockets could pull a nice package together but i shouldnt overvalue every asset. Just that.
As far as the picks go, I think the Knicks will be a lottery team this year, so anything can happen there. For 2012, if Melo goes, the pick does lose value, but an extra first round pick only helps a team and not hurt, so it's not a worthless pick.
i think rockets need a veteran and one more big man out side of yao no big men...they lack the most important things in the nba defense .. rebounding... and debt..let me repeat i mean QUALITY debt...
where is that ?...who does that ?..yao is like rain ..comes and goes..sometimes light lol.....shane is the only consistent defender on that team honestly...
everyone is talking about adding what rockets already have good ball players...
with yao sidelined we still have a number of legit rebounders like chuck Hayes etc.... hayes works hard and grabs rebounds but he's often trounced by big opponents due in majority to his severe lack of size.
and in return the 76ers will send back another midget trash who will carry it on and continue to be used mass minutes. someone should just cut JJB off the book rather than shed him to another team by losing a 1st rounder. Donnie should banish the moronic got coach as soon as possible but I doubt he will even consider doing so. Donnie will only hire another moron even if Carlisle is sacked, because Donnie only signs re ed staffs to make himself look somewhat legit.
Lol Brendan Haywood beaten out by a one year rental
I was so jacked when the Mavs dumped Najera. Some coaches have to be saved from themselves in terms of bench options, because they're solid otherwise but will just themselves by playing players they like for whatever reason.
We'll see. KG punked him in 2008. What happened last year? Exactly - Pau turned the tables on his ass. Same will happen with _irk... By the way, 2 rings (and counting
I think DJMBenga with his two rings is the difference maker!
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Looks like ~90% of his prime NO shape
TC got his career revived in dallas and we all know what magical potion it was.
Of course he is. That's why the Hornets signed him.
werent the rockets supposed to be like 80-2 this year according to yall? lol 1-6The Rockets.
Butler and Jones? Houston could offer Battier (expiring), Jeffries (expiring); young talent in Jordan Hill, Budinger, Brooks (with the emergence of Ish Smith, Brooks is becoming expendable), Patrick Patterson, and Jermaine Taylor. The Rockets could also offer their right to swap with the Knicks in 2011, as well as the Knicks 2012 first round pick...not to mention the Rockets' own draft picks in those drafts. I think Houston could offer a better offer than Dallas, and not just because I'm a Rockets fan.
houston doesnt have to offer
throwing in DoJo is not going to entice any team, he is not that good. He can't shoot from outside the paint to save his life and most of his shots get blocked at the him. If he can't learn to shoo, teams will back off of him and make him a huge liability on the floor
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