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How long ago was Matt Bonner the starting center for nearly the entire season?
How exactly does an opponent exploit a front line of Blair, Duncan and Splitter? Blair isn't slow, and with those guys in you're pretty much guaranteed not to get any second chance points. Defensively, I vastly prefer that lineup to having three guards and RJ with Blair as the center.
How long ago was Matt Bonner the starting center for nearly the entire season?
Serious question, who were our other bigs?
Kurt Thomas was on the team. Fabricio Oberto was on the team. We aren't going to blame the front office for not getting Pop a starting caliber center, are we?
Oh thats right, I actually felt like Kurt should have started but watching him play.. he just seemed hurt or out of shape the entire season.
The starting of Bonner is the same logic that had two healthy centers on the bench in the '06 playoffs combined with his stubborn belief that Bonner could be Robert Horry. Pop's doing a good job with the roster and playing time this year but insanity is never really that far away.
I honestly though Thomas was underappreciated during his time here. Sure, looking back our bigs are better now but at the time, Thomas was decent for this team. He may have been old and slow but he was a great defender and had alot of heart. Kinda like a less better version of the current McDyess.
Agreed. Much love to Horry but all the bricks he threw up during the 2006 playoffs still hurt today.
Lets hope Bonner is coming back to assume the "5th big off the bench role." Because I dont see how starting Bonner or playing him 20+ minutes would have our team. I'd rather let Splitter play into shape and Blair play into form than have Bonner play the majority of their minutes.
Completely agree. I want Bonner to be the "taller version of Gary Neal" off the bench. In fact, I'd prefer he be referred to as a role player and not as a 'big'. I don't think there's a chance in that he starts, but Pop has shocked the living out of me before, so I'm always a little wary.
I have to disagree with you. Splitter has better footwork in the post. All things being equal, Splitter is a 7 footer and will not have the same problems Blair has.
Whoa!!!! I agree with Thomas being under appreciated here, but you have it backwards. McDyess is a better version of the old Thomas. Much more athletic, just as good a defender, better shot blocker, and better shooter. Love the old warhorse Thomas and the toughnwess he brings, but give me McDyess over Thomas any day.
Timtonymanu said "less better," which is actually just the word "worse." You were confused; you actually agree.
As soon as Bonner heals we will start losing. Pop will play him no matter what. Even if he is missing 3pts and getting killed on the defensive end. It won't matter to Pop he going to play him. Just like tonite, when Blair was being abused in the paint where was the adjustment. Where?
Oops. Your right. My old english teacher is turning over in her grave. My bad Timtonymanu.
Just checked the +/- for the Clippers game. Every player was in the positive apart from 2.
James Anderson -1
DeJuan Blair -14
That's horribly bad Mr. Blair!
I don't know a thing about trades with all the complications and everything else. But the $$$'s work trading Blair and Bonner for these bigs. I don't wanna give up Blair but that's all i could do with the numbers. If anyone knows more about trades feel free to change it up for me.
Zaza Pachulia 6'11" 275lbs
Yi Jianlian 7'0" 250 lbs averaged 12, 7 and 1 last season 36% from 3
Chris Anderson crazy energtic defensive guy
I'm so sick of seeing Matt Bonner in Silver and Black. Especially come playoff time! He only played 2.8 minutes a game in our 07 Championship so that doesn't really count. And it doesn't surprise me in the least that our championship dry spell of 08 09 10 has coincided at the same time Bonner has been playing 20mpg for us in the playoffs. Damn i would love to get rid of Bonner!
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if defense is the problem, Yi Jinlian surely won't help our cause.
I think people are overrating this stat too much. It doesn't show everything that you look for. Maybe the opponent team can find their shooting rhytym when a front-court player is playing and they drill 5 three points in that period. If your team can score 6 points in that period (which is not bad at all), the front-court player's ratio becomes -9 suddenly, eventhough he scores all 6 points of his team.Just checked the +/- for the Clippers game. Every player was in the positive apart from 2.
James Anderson -1
DeJuan Blair -14
That's horribly bad Mr. Blair!
That's why, I don't respect the +/- ratio too much in a short period(Like 2 or 3 games). It may show something in long period like 25-30 games, but not for a couple games.
True Em-City.
I thought maybe Yi has more upside though. We know how high Bonner's Ceiling is and that ceiling can't help us win a le. Why are we keeping a guy around who can't help us get number 5?
Preferrably with all the chaos and turmoil in Denver it would be sweet to try grab Anderson if they are going to blow the team up. He averaged 6 rebounds and 2.5 blocks in only 20 minutes a year ago. That dude can play and wreak havoc in the middle, block shots and keep loose balls alive.
I like Blair and i'm sure we will keep him. But if we could pull a trade of Bonner for Anderson i wouldn't complain:-) I'm just sayin :-)
For this year, this team, I'd definitely take Andersen for his defense over Bonner's 3pt shooting. With the way this team is scoring right now Bonner isn't needed at all, IMO.
I think Blair will come around eventually, even if he starts coming off the bench. Duncan, Splitter, Blair and McDyess should be the regular rotation and on those nights when scoring is a problem, Bonner should be providing a 3pt shooting spark.
Now I have no idea what's going to happen once Bonner comes back, I'm just saying he basically shouldn't be in the regular rotation unless the offense is sputtering or other bigs are hurt/need rest.
+/- can be a misleading stat. I'm sure a large part of the minus on Blair came during that 3rd quarter when the Spurs had their turnover spell and the clippers were getting a bunch of easy transition buckets as a result. It's not really Dejuan's fault that he just happened to be on the floor when Manu and the other Spurs guards got careless with the basketball.Just checked the +/- for the Clippers game. Every player was in the positive apart from 2.
James Anderson -1
DeJuan Blair -14
That's horribly bad Mr. Blair!
the birdman is the obvious choice, cuckoo cuchoo
Blair is gonna lose some of his minutes to Bonner, I gurantee this..Blair has done nothing to prevent this since his main asset is rebounding and hustle points and both have been sub par along with his defense. Bonner prior to his injury was playing better defense than Blairs current defensive effort, slightly less rebounding than what blair is currently giving, and can also stretch the floor more providing more driving lanes for TP and Manu. Right now Blair only deserves 10-15 minutes a night the way he is playing..
This is what I saw. His post defense is actually quite good.
He actually reminds of Jefferson last year in that he seems to be rushing and/or overthinking everything.
Blair is hitting that wall. He's been figured out with advanced scouting reports by other teams.
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