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    if only we had malik

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    well it sucks badly...

    I guess we to need to reopen the back SF discussion

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    if only we had malik
    Malik is injured.

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    It's because that portion of the foot has such poor blood supply that using a timeline like 8 weeks is best. He could be a fast healer and be doing therapy in 6 weeks. Since he's getting the pin put in, that's to stabilize and keep the bone in a place the physician finds structurally needed and comfortable for the athlete. If this was his hand, he could pull a Stephon Marbury and play with a pin in hand, but since it's his foot, no can do.
    Let's say the range is from 6-12 weeks. The most important thing is that he be healthy when the Spurs need him most. That and that the other guys continue to perform well even though the depth Anderson provided isn't there AND that they don't suffer because of it.
    Thanks for the info...that's really depressing...

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    Beaubois has had the same injury on August 8th and he is still out.
    Webster missed a full year with that injury.
    Geez. I'm sorry I asked.

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    Um, what? You must have missed my posts over the past 2 years.
    I heard you pimping him in person on the Kori Ellis Show last season. It's good to hear if you have changed your opinion since then(though playing him more then was just as bad of an idea).

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    This sucks but in a sense I'm glad the FO is being forced to try Gee or find a better alternative. It sounds like he'll be out a long time but if he minds his weight and studies the system, he should come back in time for the PO.

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    Personally, I'd like the Spurs to give Neal and Gee the first shot at replacing JA's minutes. Sure, it will make the Spurs even smaller on the perimeter but they should be able to survive. Ginobili has defended a lot of small forwards over the years. And honestly, at this stage of Ginobili's career, he's a better post defender than he is at chasing quick guards out on the perimeter. Ginobili ain't gonna let no one bully him.
    That's why I believe Pop will consider bringing Manu off the bench, now. Pop will still have the Big 4 in there in crunch time, but I think Anderson's injury is a starting lineup changer. Neal is 6'4" (yes, he's a good 1 1/2 to 2 inches taller than Hill) but he's a small-ball-only 3. Gee is a big question mark.

    Chip will just need to work with George and DeJuan on their shooting that much more. Which begs the question. Is there any correlation between Hill and Blair making such major strides in the weight room this summer and their poor FG% (.375 and .306 respectively)?

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    Beaubois has had the same injury on August 8th and he is still out.
    Webster missed a full year with that injury.
    Yeah, I was just looking at these two cases. Beaubois had the same injury and underwent surgery on Aug. 13th and the Mavs think he could be out another month. That'd be four months.

    Webster had the same surgery and re-injured his foot five minutes after returning to the court. He missed the rest of the season.

    Patty Mills had the same injury before his rookie season and missed five months.

    Unfortunately, I highly doubt Anderson will be back eight weeks after surgery. Looking at other cases, I'd say even the All-Star break is pushing it a bit.


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    Never a dull moment-dammit!

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    Yeah, I was just looking at these two cases. Beaubois had the same injury and underwent surgery on Aug. 13th and the Mavs think he could be out another month. That'd be four months.

    Webster had the same surgery and re-injured his foot five minutes after returning to the court. He missed the rest of the season.

    Patty Mills had the same injury before his rookie season and missed five months.

    Unfortunately, I highly doubt Anderson will be back eight weeks after surgery. Looking at other cases, I'd say even the All-Star break is pushing it a bit.

    yeah, could be march before we see him and all star break is probably a best case scenario. not good at all. i guess we will have more certainty after the surgery.

    also, for pop...8 weeks= at least that plus at least a few more

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    If its a stress fracture, it should be 2-3 months. A little confused with the need for pinning.

    Not related to prior injury directly. Just constant pounding (overuse injury).

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    Personally, I'd like the Spurs to give Neal and Gee the first shot at replacing JA's minutes. Sure, it will make the Spurs even smaller on the perimeter but they should be able to survive. Ginobili has defended a lot of small forwards over the years. And honestly, at this stage of Ginobili's career, he's a better post defender than he is at chasing quick guards out on the perimeter. Ginobili ain't gonna let no one bully him.

    The only way I'd want to trade for a small forward would be if the Spurs fear JA may be out for the season. Same goes for signing a free agent. Knowing the Spurs, I'm sure their thinking about Jarvis Hayes and, even worse, Michael Finley to get a SF with size who can shoot.
    Don't even think that way or say it in jest.

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    This sucks. I currently have a stress fracture in my right foot. I developed it from compensating for breaking my left foot about a month ago. The stress fracture hurts more.

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    If its a stress fracture, it should be 2-3 months. A little confused with the need for pinning.

    Not related to prior injury directly. Just constant pounding (overuse injury).
    what is weird is that he really has not seen all that much action. he sat out summer league and also some of training camp...

    just weird.

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    if only we had malik
    Pop's clearing out a spot on the bench for him...

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    We obviously have the most problems on the defensive end. Give Stephane Lasme another look.

    Quinn isn't going anywhere as backup PG. Patrick Beverley is looking for an NBA job.

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    Yeah, I was just looking at these two cases. Beaubois had the same injury and underwent surgery on Aug. 13th and the Mavs think he could be out another month. That'd be four months.

    Webster had the same surgery and re-injured his foot five minutes after returning to the court. He missed the rest of the season.

    Patty Mills had the same injury before his rookie season and missed five months.

    Unfortunately, I highly doubt Anderson will be back eight weeks after surgery. Looking at other cases, I'd say even the All-Star break is pushing it a bit.

    Beaubois should have been back for the start of the regular season but he had a setback.
    There is also Manu's injury even if it wasn't in the foot.

    What looks scary with these injuries is that a lot of times there are setbacks or re-injuries.

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    These injuries are dicey and definitely he will be favoring the other foot just reflexively. 8 weeks is super optimistic, even if he is young and a presumed fast healer. If they are pinning it, it must have been a complete or near complete fracture and that's going to take a while to heal. Just bizarre, because surely he would have been symptomatic from the stress reaction that occurs before the bone gives out and breaks. I'm hoping for early February or just before all star game. If he returns after ASG, he will have a lot of difficulty working back into the rotation. In the meantime, I hope he carpets his entire house, buys expensive shoes, and doesn't dance.

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    It really depends on blood flow movement in the injured area. Knees, Shoulders, Wrists, and Foot Bones heal the slowest because they articulate. Things needs to bend so from a physiological perspective, a whole mass of blood vessels needed to carry the blood for quick healing, won't be there because that would prevent movement.
    I've suggested alternative options for Tim Duncan with regard to his knee-http://www.bionicare.com/bionicare-knee-system/

    For James, I'd say go with oxygenated blood and maybe some Electronic Acupuncture to help his blood pool better AND allow for toxins that help swelling to move quicker through the vessels.

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    If Spurs sign a FA, Jarvis Hayes is maybe the best option. Spurs could also bring back Udoka. One of the problem with these vets is that they weren't at training camps and haven't played a game for 7 months: in what shape are they?

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    Other comparables:

    Marcus Williams the point guard missed 11 weeks after the surgery.

    Andray Blatche missed about ten weeks this summer after the surgery ... but he's still not at 100%.

    So yeah, tough injury. Given the severity and Pop always being overprotective, the All-Star break is probably a good guess.

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    Beaubois should have been back for the start of the regular season but he had a setback.
    There is also Manu's injury even if it wasn't in the foot.

    What looks scary with these injuries is that a lot of times there are setbacks or re-injuries.

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    Pop said 6 weeks after the surgery that will happen next Tuesday:
    http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/101111_pop.html

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