lol Utah..

[Pelicans78]

It's an ok excuse, but how long will it take for certain players to learn the offense and feel comfortable? Will Jefferson really ever fit in?

[Purch]

It's an ok excuse, but how long will it take for certain players to learn the offense and feel comfortable? Will Jefferson really ever fit in?

Why wouldn't he? He's already had a couple of high scoring games and was much better screening for players against teams like OKC and has been much better kicking out of double teams. We're not running the sets we ran with Booze for him. We run those more will Millsap whiles we run sets similar to the ones we ran for Malone for Jefferson down low.

It's completely different then in Minny you have to react to every little thing like if Deron steps back at a certain time in the game he's supposed to roll to the basket. He's already a better player because so much of an emphasis has been put on the things that make you a winning player. And he's gonna grow as a player every game. And onces he's finnally used to the offense
WilL-Jeff-Sap Will be a reliable big three

[TJastal]

Why wouldn't he? He's already had a couple of high scoring games and was much better screening for players against teams like OKC and has been much better kicking out of double teams. We're not running the sets we ran with Booze for him. We run those more will Millsap whiles we run sets similar to the ones we ran for Malone for Jefferson down low.

It's completely different then in Minny you have to react to every little thing like if Deron steps back at a certain time in the game he's supposed to roll to the basket. He's already a better player because so much of an emphasis has been put on the things that make you a winning player. And he's gonna grow as a player every game. And onces he's finnally used to the offense
WilL-Jeff-Sap Will be a reliable big three

Purch

What is wrong with Okur, and where is Okur going to fit into this equation when he returns, (just curious)?

[Purch]

Purch

What is wrong with Okur, and where is Okur going to fit into this equation when he returns, (just curious)?

That pretty much explains it lol.


He should be back in the near future since he's rehabbing above schedule.

Considering how Millsap is playing I just say bring him into that second unit with CJ and Watson

[Purch]

So how stupid do you look for overreacting to the first two games of the season?

[21_Blessings]

Jefferson just had like a 2 point game 25 hours ago. Still a clear downgrade compared to what Boozer gave them.

They'll make the playoffs of course and then get their ed by the Lakers. Life goes on.

[Purch]

Plz you mean the 7 games compared to how many seasons Booze played with the Jazz?

Lol gtfo.

[Killakobe81]

I'm not one to save a thread for future reference, but this one will be bookmarked.

ing idiots in this thread reacting to one game = priceless.

I guess Miami is trash as well.

Good call. the death of dwill as a top flight PG has been GREATLY exaggerated ..

You should bump Br's LOL Dwill threads as well ...

[sribb43]

Sloan's system = gold...

[j.dizzle]

21 is right, it must suck balls for Utah to know they gotta get by LA every year if they wanna get to the finals. Gotta give props to Utah though, they could of easily given up in their last 3 games but still came back to win them. They were down 18 to the Clippers the game before Miami & won that one too hahaha funny

[oh crap]

lol harlemheat

[ducks]

Most overrated team in the NBA, as expected..

I would say heat or now

[DPG21920]

I would say heat or now

I wonder why now is struggling so bad with all their talent?

[HarlemHeat37]

Utah has had 2 impressive wins in a row against teams that fell asleep against them, I'll give them credit for that(to go along with some poor officiating in the Orlando game and one of the biggest anomalies in NBA history in regards to Milsapp's McGrady-like clutch heroics)..their SRS was 18th coming into the game, it will go up a little after this W..they're playing like a 6-8 seed, which is what I predicted..

The fact that they've been down by 18+ points in 3 consecutive games should be alarming IMO..teams won't be falling asleep on them after seeing this..

They're a 6-8 seed in the West, barring injuries to other teams..

[crc21209]

Utah has had 2 impressive wins in a row against teams that fell asleep against them, I'll give them credit for that(to go along with some poor officiating in the Orlando game and one of the biggest anomalies in NBA history in regards to Milsapp's McGrady-like clutch heroics)..their SRS was 18th coming into the game, it will go up a little after this W..they're playing like a 6-8 seed, which is what I predicted..

The fact that they've been down by 18+ points in 3 consecutive games should be alarming IMO..teams won't be falling asleep on them after seeing this..

They're a 6-8 seed in the West, barring injuries to other teams..

+1...People will drool all over them because of the fact that they made huge comebacks in back to back games against Orlando and Miami and WON those games but the real story should be...damn how does Utah get in these 20-point holes so bad? I still dont like what I see from Al Jefferson, I think Boozer fit D-Will and that team much better than what Jefferson will. Another thing to note is that Utah came back against 2 overrated teams in Miami and Orlando. One team who is relying on 3 guys, and the other team who is depending on their big man who has no jumpshot and lives and dies on the 3-point shot.

[LkrFan]

Utah has had 2 impressive wins in a row against teams that fell asleep against them, I'll give them credit for that(to go along with some poor officiating in the Orlando game and one of the biggest anomalies in NBA history in regards to Milsapp's McGrady-like clutch heroics)..their SRS was 18th coming into the game, it will go up a little after this W..they're playing like a 6-8 seed, which is what I predicted..

The fact that they've been down by 18+ points in 3 consecutive games should be alarming IMO..teams won't be falling asleep on them after seeing this..

They're a 6-8 seed in the West, barring injuries to other teams..

Wrong. That's a loser's mentality. Take the best player in the game. He was having a ty shooting performance in the Finals. What did he do? He kept playing. He kept rebounding, playing defense, and grinding.

The Jazz didn't give up last night, just like the Lakers didn't give up when they were down by 13 in the Finals. Teams like the Celtics, Hype, and the Magic will get up big and then let their guards down. Teams like the Lakers and Jazz will keep running their system whether they are up 10 or down 20. Eventually the other team will stop doing the things that got them the lead thinking the game is over (another choking example is the 2000 Jailblazers in the WCF, but that's another argument altogether).

Yes, the Jazz got some lucky breaks in those two games. But these breaks presented themselves because they kept fighting for 48 minutes. One of the reasons they were down to begin with is they are still gelling. Once they began to feel the other team out in the 2nd half they began doing damage and notched the W. The Hype and Magic didn't fall asleep. They failed to keep playing hard thinking that they won already.

I stand by my notion that unless they have a major injury, the Jazz are a top 4 team in the wC. Okur hasn't even played a minute yet. Wait until he comes back raining 3's. They will be tough once they are 100%. You can do like the Hype and the Magic and "sleep" on them if you want to.

[LkrFan]

+1...People will drool all over them because of the fact that they made huge comebacks in back to back games against Orlando and Miami and WON those games but the real story should be...damn how does Utah get in these 20-point holes so bad? I still dont like what I see from Al Jefferson, I think Boozer fit D-Will and that team much better than what Jefferson will. Another thing to note is that Utah came back against 2 overrated teams in Miami and Orlando. One team who is relying on 3 guys, and the other team who is depending on their big man who has no jumpshot and lives and dies on the 3-point shot.

They were on the road. Teams tend to play a little worse on the road than they do at home. And how could you not be impressed with what Al Jefferson did to the DPOY? He ted on him at will on the block. Of course Boozer looks better than Jefferson has (so far). Jefferson has like 8 games under his belt in a Utah uniform. But...the potential with Millsap taking the lion's share of Boozer minutes plus adding Al Jefferson is higher than the team they had last year. Then Okur will be added to the mix. They will be much improved.

I agree about the Hype and Magic being overrated though. I see the Magic going further than the Hype. Once they give Bass some more PT with D12 they will be less soft on their frontline.

[Pelicans78]

This was more about the Master of Panic than about the Jazz. Van Gundy panics, the team follows his lead. Enough said. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[Pelicans78]

The Jazz need to avoid getting in these large deficits. So far their big 3 are averaging about 38-39 minutes a game. That's pretty early in the season. If they can avoid the large deficits, they should be ok. Their bench should be a concern because they really don't have anyone stepping up right now. They're relying heavily on their big 3.

Honestly, the West isn't all that strong right now. It's really a toss-up as far as the top 4 seed. Obviously LA is number one, but the rest is a toss-up. The number two seed will be a dogfight.

[Jose Canseco]

It's impressive no matter how you spin it. Getting in big deficits isn't good, but getting out of big deficits on the road against quality teams is more indicative of proving they're a really good team than the deficits are proving they aren't.

Beating 2 teams that are considered legitimate le contenders on their homecourt on back-to-back nights after getting down by double digits doesn't scream 6-8 playoff seed to me at all. What they end up being we'll find out. But they're playing like a disciplined and battle tested team that knows how to win against really good teams. Let's not forget that their front court depth is hurt with Okur out. And while Millsap going Rodney Rogers was wild, the more impressive fact about the Miami game is not how they got to overtime but the fact that the Jazz beat the Heat in overtime without Deron Williams.

If it were against the Nets and the Sixers, it might be a different perception of the wins. But the Jazz just came back on the Heat and Magic on their homecourts on back-to-back nights. That's pretty impressive to me.

[Purch]

Obviously.We always give up leads early on the road. We always have. Difference is we can actually fight through it now. And I'm much more confident in this squad then previous squads to play for 48 minutes once the team is jelled.

Booze left and we actually have a heart.

[Purch]

This is the team that has always struggled on the road. But we've actually been able to fight back and get some great road wins this season.

Harlem is gonna hate like Usual.

[Maverick421]

So how stupid do you look for overreacting to the first two games of the season?

Exactly!!!

[alchemist]

very impressive wins.

[HarlemHeat37]

It's impressive no matter how you spin it. Getting in big deficits isn't good, but getting out of big deficits on the road against quality teams is more indicative of proving they're a really good team than the deficits are proving they aren't.

Beating 2 teams that are considered legitimate le contenders on their homecourt on back-to-back nights after getting down by double digits doesn't scream 6-8 playoff seed to me at all. What they end up being we'll find out. But they're playing like a disciplined and battle tested team that knows how to win against really good teams. Let's not forget that their front court depth is hurt with Okur out. And while Millsap going Rodney Rogers was wild, the more impressive fact about the Miami game is not how they got to overtime but the fact that the Jazz beat the Heat in overtime without Deron Williams.

If it were against the Nets and the Sixers, it might be a different perception of the wins. But the Jazz just came back on the Heat and Magic on their homecourts on back-to-back nights. That's pretty impressive to me.

I did say it was impressive, it obviously was..

All they have shown so far is that they're an inconsistent team..they're currently 7th in the West, their SRS is 11th, they've been blown out and lost to bad teams in multiple games..that screams above average team to me..

If they beat Atlanta, I'll admit that I underestimated them a little..if they win that game, I'll say that they'll be similar to last season's Jazz team..