Simple Question : Prime Pippen or Prime Lebron

[z0sa]

Hey, Z, you could always try and lure 2b into a fight. You Spurs guys always try that stunt once you start gettin' your caca messed up.

Actually, the opposite occurred. He called me an "all talk pussy" and offered to post his address.

[LnGrrrR]

Lebron.

[Giuseppe]

Actually, the opposite occurred. He called me an "all talk pussy" and offered to post his address.

Don't be obtuse, Z. As soon as you can't bully somebody to the door you try and incite to violence. Then once you succeed you run and tell Kori and she eradicates the offender and you lay your head to rest.

You tried that with me. Frankly? Everybody trys that with me.

[z0sa]

feigning persecution that doesn't exist is below ya, G.

[history2b]

Actually, the opposite occurred. He called me an "all talk pussy" and offered to post his address.

That's because you are.

[Giuseppe]

feigning persecution that doesn't exist is below ya, G.

I apologize, Z.

Let me clarify here:::you didn't do that with me, Z, but, some of your people did. I would never fall for it, because I know the drill, but, for some unsuspecting fellow it's grossly unjust to attempt such an act.

[z0sa]

That's because you are.

I guess this means I've been taken to the tree of woe.

[tbonewalker]

Lebron by default because Pippen isn't a franchise guy. He's a Pau Gasol; needs a Batman to get the job done.

So far Lebron hasn't shown he can be the Batman and get the job done, but I'd choose him over Pip.

[DAF86]

Easy answer: Lebron.

[tbonewalker]

Easy answer: Lebron.

Goodness, I know it's off topic, but the video in your signature is horrific.

[DAF86]

Goodness, I know it's off topic, but the video in your signature is horrific.

Yes, it is.

[Gutter92]

I guess this means I've been taken to the tree of woe.

Kicking and screaming, like Bryant to his first championship.

[hitmanyr2k]

Lebron by default because Pippen isn't a franchise guy. He's a Pau Gasol; needs a Batman to get the job done.

So far Lebron hasn't shown he can be the Batman and get the job done, but I'd choose him over Pip.

There's no such thing as a "franchise guy" or "sidekick" man. You either have adequate help (another superstar/all-star or two) beside you or you don't. Seriously, take the "sidekick" away from the "franchise guy" and what does the "franchise guy" become? He becomes a guy who puts up pretty numbers in the regular season, probably guides his team to 50-55 wins and will be ousted in the playoffs in the first or second round by a better team. The "sidekick" can pretty much do the same thing as the "franchise guy" when separated. Ultimately, Jordan without Pippen is losing. Kobe without Shaq/Gasol is losing. Lebron without....well, he hasn't had anything worthy of a true all-star during his career to even mention but you get the idea.

In summary when it comes to the ultimate goal of winning a championship the "franchise guy" is jack without the "sidekick" and vice versa. It's worthless to give them labels. The only players I've ever seen win it all without legit all-star help is Hakeem in '94 and Duncan in '03.