The only thing/person that's re ed around these parts is you. Bench the leading 3-point shooter in the NBA because he got abused by one of the elite players in the league.
He's also one of the worst, if not the worst, 2-point shooters in the NBA. He's a horrible defender, and can't rebound worth .The only thing/person that's re ed around these parts is you. Bench the leading 3-point shooter in the NBA because he got abused by one of the elite players in the league.
I wouldn't bench him completely. But his minutes need to be limited to about 10-12 per game. He's a situational player and Popovich is giving him starter minutes. It's absolutely insane.
He should be benched when he's not hitting his shots, and never used against elite players in the first place.The only thing/person that's re ed around these parts is you. Bench the leading 3-point shooter in the NBA because he got abused by one of the elite players in the league.
At the very least he ought to be the 5th big, battling Blair for minutes depending on matchups. But Pop feels Bonner is more of a 2nd or 3rd big who should be in the game at crunch time because once in awhile he'll hit a friggin' 3 pointer against a scrub team.
We should be riding that 25 year old stallion named Splitter at 28-30 minutes a game by now.
I think that the Spurs are good at the SF position with Jefferson having improved his game, Manu sometimes when Pop uses the Parker - Hill back court.
But the bigman roation isn't so good compared to other teams. While the Spurs seldom get outrebounded, they allow a lot of points in the paint and the bigman offense isn't what it was.
In the Mavs game, when the Spurs wanted to go inside for scoring, Duncan and the other bigs had trouble catching the ball from the player driving that collapses the defense.
However, there should be more isolation plays for Duncan to post-up also P&R. Splitter excells in P&R.
Pop should design something with good looks. The bigman offense should be more fluid.
That's really the whole deal though isn't it? Spurs are extremely deep, There is no reason that a player as situational as Bonner is, should be getting this many minutes when you have so much talent on the team to work with.
I'm inclined to agree. However, the problem I have with this argument is that if the Spurs had won, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. It was all good until the Spurs lost one.
Having said that, I think going forward we need to evaluate Bonners ability to get his 3 off against various teams (not his D). Once he puts it on the floor, its generally a bad outcome.
He definitely a 3rd or 4th Big, not a 5th. Problem is, you're on record as wanting to bench Bonner altogether while agreeing with statements such as the one itsoweeze posted above. You cant have it both ways.He should be benched when he's not hitting his shots, and never used against elite players in the first place.
At the very least he ought to be the 5th big, battling Blair for minutes depending on matchups. But Pop feels Bonner is more of a 2nd or 3rd big who should be in the game at crunch time because once in awhile he'll hit a friggin' 3 pointer against a scrub team.
We should be riding that 25 year old stallion named Splitter at 28-30 minutes a game by now.
Splitter isnt ready for prime time yet. He'll be getting those minutes later in the season I suspect.
That's why I precluded my statement by saying "at the very least" .. do you understand what that means?
Do you?
"prefaced" is what I meantDo you?
This is why I love hanging around a conversation that TJastals involved in.Do you?
All you need to do is give him some rope and watch as he goes to work hanging himself.
Good stuff once again.
In the spirit of the holiday season: The word you're looking for is prefaced
I'm glad your having your jollies correcting my grammar and vocab. /yawnThis is why I love hanging around a conversation that TJastals involved in.
All you need to do is give him some rope and watch as he goes to work hanging himself.
Good stuff once again.
In the spirit of the holiday season: The word you're looking for is prefaced
+1. So true. If I wanted to do drugs, Tjastal is the first guy I would look to and ask him to recommend some good hallucingenics.This is why I love hanging around a conversation that TJastals involved in.
All you need to do is give him some rope and watch as he goes to work hanging himself.
Good stuff once again.
In the spirit of the holiday season: The word you're looking for is prefaced
I don't sell drugs to inbreds. I figure their lives are tough enough...
Bob Hill, is that you?
Someone's gotta do it. I want you as presentable as possible before people destroy your arguments; or rather before you destroy your own.
Happy Holidays. One can only hope that you rise above your blind Bonner/Pop hate enough to at least acknowledge their accomplishments of late.
Sterling points, here.
Pop implores the very same strategy with Blair. There are some teams who prevent serious matchup issues that ultimately neutralize Blair's effectiveness. We saw that last night against the Mavs, where Blair's minutes were limited. I don't see where Bonner is above similar treatment. He's a valauble contributor against certain teams, primarily when he's knocking down shots and spacing the floor. Despite him being a big body, we all know that rebounding, defense and shotblocking are not his strong suits. He's certainly not on the floor because of his prowess in those areas. His limitations mean that he's got a low ceiling - especially against a team like Dallas and the Fakers.
ElNono is spot on here. There's no way Bonner should garner a 30+ minute against an opponent where he's ice cold from the arc and an obvious liability in every other phase of the game.
To understand the limitations and shortcomings of the Spurs frontcourt, all one has to do is remember the Phoenix series. That was not a one-time abberration, that was an indictment as to the age, physical limimtations, and lack of versatility of that frontcourt unit, as a whole.
Fast forward a few months, and we've seen glimpses of the contributions of Tiago Splitter, who was supposed to be a helpful antidote to some of those woes. Regardless of why he's being sparingly utlized up to this point, Splitter's absence from the regular rotation, means the Spurs glaring defensive deficiencies are on full display again. They are again susceptible to giving up points in the paint, second chance rebounds and being vulnerable to the pick and rolls.
Now that Duncan is in decline, there just isn't enough collective contributions from the other frontcourt players, on a nightly basis, to offset loss of his brillant, all-star level production.
Last edited by SenorSpur; 11-27-2010 at 05:56 PM.
Matt Bonner can get four to six three point shots a game without playing 30 minutes or guarding players like Dirk for the nearly the entire fourth quarter. People that don't understand this reality need ot pull their head out of their ass.
That would pretty much guarantee an injury.
Someone else said Splitter looked exhausted when he sat down. Which is it?
Oh ! Someone needs to tell Pop that before Duncan, Manu, Parker, Jefferson or Hill get hurt because they're all playing that many minutes. Perhaps Pop should go to that "DNP for two games" strategy that's keeping Splitter's fragile body in one piece.
Saving Splitter from injury. Maybe he'll be fresh for the summer.
Baloney. He'll have a bigger chance of injury playing sporadic minutes every other game like he is now, cuz his body won't be in any kind of conditioning.
Get him into game shape and he'll put in 40 minutes a game without a limp or a hitch I'll wager.
Oh ! Someone needs to tell Pop that before Duncan, Manu, Parker, Jefferson or Hill get hurt because they're all playing that many minutes. Perhaps Pop should go to that "DNP for two games" strategy that's keeping Splitter's fragile body in one piece.
Oh ! Someone needs to tell Pop that before Duncan, Manu, Parker, Jefferson or Hill get hurt because they're all playing that many minutes. Perhaps Pop should go to that "DNP for two games" strategy that's keeping Splitter's fragile body in one piece.
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