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    (1)Let's use the Hollinger argument: RJ, Bonner, and Splitter for a combined $14.8M isn't a bad deal, it's just the allocation of the money that people hate. If Splitter got $5.8 (full MLE), RJ got $6.8, and Bonner got $2.2, would people be complaining nearly as much?

    (2)And to the "RJ is overpaid" crowd: the Spurs must have had this deal in place before free agency started, so the Spurs are just honoring their word; nothing wrong with that.
    (1)That would work if the RJ contract was movable, but at 38.8/4yrs for a declining, decidedly average player on the wrong side of 30, it ain't.

    (2)Why commit to a guy who doesn't fit your team in the first place?

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    Is he finally going to play with Canada NT on WC?

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    If anything Bonner is a prime example of why that stat is pure garbage.
    +1

    We ain't getting the Larry O'Brien by winning the regular season +/- championship. This isn't the Dallas Mavericks.

    And Horry freaking mailed it in the regular season, but showed up in the playoffs, when the games matter. This is where Matt is full of fail.

    A career 3.5 rebound per game (2.0 in the playoffs) for a 6'10 PF is not awful? I mean, you have to almost purposely not want to grab boards.
    Again +1. Matty B doesn't have a compass for the post season. It's like his season ends at the end of 82 games.

    This is exactly why you can't pull the Horry card with Matt. He's a great guy, sandwich lover, and he hustles and tries hard. Nobody is taking that away from him. But he's just not a smart player like Horry was. You can't teach that. You either have it or you don't.
    Amen brother.

    NO comparison between the two. Apples and Oranges have more in common.

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    Just one game. But what you see is what you get. Anyone who says that Bonner's spreading floor is not helping the Spurs is well....

    Hopefully this translates into improvement in the regular season and the post season.

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    Hats off to Matt Bonner for a great, great game, but nobody ever said he can't shoot the three.

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    Bonner sucks.

    He'll go 7 for 7 one night, and 1 for 6 another; and that's only during the regular season.

    Come playoffs, the white boy ain't anywhere to be found.

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    You guys. If Matt bonner was what you expect him to be (mad threes, d and rebounding starter) he would not be with the spurs he would be making twice as much on a different team.

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    Bonner sucks.

    He'll go 7 for 7 one night, and 1 for 6 another; and that's only during the regular season.
    8 for 13 in two games? I'll tAke it

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    With apologies to the writers of one of the great American movie scenes.

    Setting: A luncheon hosted by the Spurs for Season Ticket Holders who have not yet renewed for 2010-11. Coach Pop takes questions from the fans....

    Disgruntled Spurs Fan (DSF): Coach Popovich! Did you overplay the "big red?!!"

    Peter Holt: You don't have to answer that question!

    Coach Popovich (Pop): I'll answer the question. You want answers?

    DSF: I think I'm en led to them.

    Pop: You want answers?!


    DSF: I want the truth!

    Pop: You can't handle the truth!

    Son, we live in a world that has balls, and those balls have to be hoisted by big men with red hair. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Mahinmi, and you curse the Front Office. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that Mahinmi's loss, while tragic, probably saved wins; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves wins.

    You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about on internet message boards, you want Matt to shoot that ball -- you need Matt to shoot that ball.

    We use words like "stretch four," "PER," "plus/minus." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line.

    I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very basketball greatness that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it.

    I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you buy a ticket and stand up and cheer. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think you're en led to!


    DSF: Did you overplay the "big red?"

    Pop: I did the job I was –

    DSF: -- Did you overplay the "big red?!"

    Pop: You're god damn right I did!!!

    Obi, that really was a great damn post. Glad I took the time to go back and read it again.

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    Wow, Mel.

    Brilliant.

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    Bonner sucks.

    He'll go 7 for 7 one night, and 1 for 6 another; and that's only during the regular season.

    Come playoffs, the white boy ain't anywhere to be found.
    There are few ungrateful and unappreciate so called fans here.

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    There are few ungrateful and unappreciate so called fans here.
    .. I guess he was right huh?
    This mother er is absolutely balling!

    What a joke.

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    Which means they're not going to sit him at the end of the bench...

    I don't disagree with the premise, I've stated as much -- the Spurs aren't likely to find a better player for that role.

    But it's not that some of us begrudge him getting paid, it's what that inevitable means: significant playing time.
    Because if they pay him, they're going to play him.
    I'll wait until I see more official numbers before I overreact, but at first glance the deal seems fairly un-Spurs-like. I could see giving Bonner a slight raise, or I could see giving him 4 years, but not both. (That is, I could have easily seen 2 years, $7 million, or 4 years, $11 million.)

    I've said before, I have no problem bringing back Bonner if he's going to be the 5th big. However, at that price, either you're going to be playing him more than 5th big minutes, or you're going to be overpaying for someone at the end of the bench. As much as I like Bonner, either situation is unacceptable for a team trying to compete for a championship while going into uncertain financial times.
    By the way, you are all fools if you think they are paying this for the 'fifth' big.

    This means Pop and RC are sold on the Anti-Horry being a rotation big for us (probably the first one off the bench).
    Matt Bonner is at best the 5th big on a contending team. Paying him 14 million is confirmation that he will see meaningful minutes and get outplayed by every opposing big in the playoffs.
    "He spreads the floor."
    "He will only play 10mpg."

    Wake the up. This signing officially etches the closing tombstone date on championship level Spurs defense.
    What a bargain for the first big off the bench. Can't wait to see him defending starters in the post for another four years.
    If he makes as much as reported he will play rotation minutes.
    Question 1: Who else would have offered Bonner this money?

    Question 2: Does it make sense to pay your 5th big 4M per year?

    Question 3: How many minutes does Bonner see next year?


    There are many, many more in the thread...but you get the picture. It looks like the days of Pop doghousing Bonner are gone and the days of Bonner getting the blind Finley minutes are here. Bonner getting injured is the only way he is not getting rotation minutes in the playoffs.

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    I'm sure the Bonner krew will be all licking & slurping on his purple nutsack on the next game he goes 4-4 from the arc and helps the spurs blowout some eastern conference bottom dweller.

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    "He spreads the floor."
    "He will only play 10mpg."

    Wake the up. This signing officially etches the closing tombstone date on championship level Spurs defense.
    Someone just ing kill me.

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    In 2008-09, Bonner led his team in that category, with the Spurs outscoring their opponents by an average of .175 points per minute with Bonner in action. Last season, Bonner's plus/minus average improved to .180. Among the Spurs, only Manu Ginobili (.181) had a higher figure.
    “That shows a strong indication of not only how our team plays with him,” Buford said, “but also how our coaches value him.”
    Buford said that impact — coupled with the fact that perimeter shooting big men form a “very limited talent pool” in the NBA — made re-signing Bonner a no-brainer.
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s...ner-785815.php


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    Too bad Bonner can never do in the playoffs.

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    Bonner is starting to do his usual springtime swoon. By March 21, he'll be in full suck mode both at home and on the road.

    No good defensive team is going to give this guy open looks along the arc - especially in the playoffs. In effect, he will be invisible in the playoffs - again.

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    3 more years!!! 3 more years!!! 3 more years!!!

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    Bonner only played 7 minutes tonight - this game was not his fault

    The Spurs had an off night shooting the ball

    The Heat are playing really well right now, so this was expected

    The Spurs are 54-13 and still have a 6.5 game lead for the 1st seed

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    Role player.

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    Bonner only played 7 minutes tonight
    Really.... you don't wonder why?

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    Bonner only played 7 minutes tonight - this game was not his fault

    The Spurs had an off night shooting the ball

    The Heat are playing really well right now, so this was expected

    The Spurs are 54-13 and still have a 6.5 game lead for the 1st seed
    LOL heads like this make me sick, he was a blackhole thats why! Some got layups at will on him thats why he only played 7 mins, he is pure shyt if he is not hitting threes! That is always what he will be! He is trash! He does this yearly late, he does it again it seems, yet he still gets a pass from some?

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    Bonner is starting to do his usual springtime swoon. By March 21, he'll be in full suck mode both at home and on the road.

    No good defensive team is going to give this guy open looks along the arc - especially in the playoffs. In effect, he will be invisible in the playoffs - again.
    YET IDIOTS DENY THIS and don't see this yearly! They think every year he is shooting high PCT so it will not happen, but it happens every year and some still back this piece of fukkin .
    I'm sure the Bonner krew will be all licking & slurping on his purple nutsack on the next game he goes 4-4 from the arc and helps the spurs blowout some eastern conference bottom dweller.
    Yep, and idiots will say I told you so and post some stupid thread on it and say he hustles hard and hits at a high rate on threes! They will be in denial again of this first half of the year bozo and give them hope he will show it later on in the playoffs etc.! He is what he is, a ing role playing bum, Pop will not see that though.

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