The HOLTING PATTERN: Are you happy with it?

[Temple Of The Dog]

yeah but you know... ghost is right. i thought if this day finally came and no max free agent was signed... most of the no limit army crew would have to be put on suicide watch...

[ChumpDumper]

Like I forewarned about a year ago, we probably would have to settle for a guy like Olowokandi in the summer of 2003. You weren't prepared for that.

I was, and said so on the old board. Perhaps you'd like to lie about what I said now.

And for the record (again) I don't agree with everything the FO does. Really, just stop lying, Casper.

I was very disappointed in our non-draft this year. Completely unnecessary capwise considering the feeble cap hit it would entail (if any - a draftee on a foreign team and staying there wouldn't). So we missed out on a guy like Pachulia who is laying waste to SL as we speak.

I guess you won't stop lying though, so **** right off.

[Archie]

man shut the up you re

enough with the "holting pattern" crap. its not cute its not witty. give it back to whatever 12 year old you stole it from

Amen ice.

[Archie]

I've never changed my opinion from day one, ' . You are the one who jumps from wanting Olowokandi to wanting Kidd to wanting Odom to God only knows what. You complain when the Spurs can't pursue big name free agents and you complain when they do. You are a perfect online . Forget about listening to some whiney girlfriend we have the next best thing mixed in with our Spurs discussion. Can't beat that.

[Solid D]

Thought for the day:

When s run out of ammo...they re- .

[Ghost Writer]

You people need me to vent your anger and frustration on.

Especially Archie.

That fool whipped up every trade scenario under the sun during the past 2 years and now want to come off like he supported the Holt-ing Pattern every step of the way.

People gave me such a hard time for warning against the dangers of clearing cap space and not pursuing trades and now that it seems like we're whiffing once again, they need someone to blame. Someone to pick a fight with.

Well, you can all go screw.

You're either lying or kidding yourselves.

Revise the past. Rationalize the present. I don't care.

We know wo said what over the past two years.

My cards are on the table.

I'm disappointed in you people for folding already.

We're getting Kidd, freaks.

Relax.



Bullsh1t.

[timvp]

So does Ghost like the idea of getting Kidd or not? I haven't figured that out.








Question.

[spurster]

Yes, plans A through Z was to get a max free agent this summer. If that doesn't happen, then obviously plans A through Z have failed. Somehow though, the Spurs won the le, which somehow makes that failure something less than a major crisis. The level of disappointment will be much, much less than the sweet smell of a championship.

[ChumpDumper]

C'mon timvp, he said his cards were on the table....

He's fer it, pending a trade for a big man.

[Ghost Writer]

Chump, sorry for lumping you into my general response to everyone in this thread that had something stupid to say to me to make themselves feel better about not getting the superstar of their dreams.

I do recall you having a more realistic point of view many months ago regarding this summer on the old Forum now that you mention it.


timvp, please refer to any one of the 300 posts I've left here in your Forum to see today's thoughts by me.

To recap:

I think we are still getting Kidd. If we don't we need to convince Brand to accept an offer from us. If that doesn't work, check out Odom, Olowokandi, Brown, Nesterovic, etc.

I'm not giving up on a superstar just yet.

[ChumpDumper]

Chalk it up to the heat of the moment.

[IcemanCometh]

Gost comes from the philosophy that if you repeat something enough times people will believe it. Hes now told us 1521 that hes is so smart and we are so wrong. We still don't believe him tho.

[TwoHandJam]

Ghost I have read your posts since the old forum and the most dominant theme in the vast majority of your posts is the way you slip some kind of "I warned you" or "I was right" or "I told you so" sentence in there somewhere.

On the whole you seem like an intelligent sort who could be agreeable to carry on discussion with. That said, you seem to have a huge inferiority complex which drives you to constantly prove to others that you were right about something. As you can see by some of the vitriol being thrown your way by other posters in this thread, it tends to get people upset at you.

You do have some good takes but you also have a lot of takes. Inevitably, you are going to be right about some of them. Try not harp on these takes or throw them in other people's faces as if they somehow "didn't listen to you". It's really quite annoying. Most posters in here remember some of your takes (we all have them) that weren't quite so enlightened but we don't post them every other day so you can remember how "wrong" you were.

So please stop trying to tell everyone how "right" you were.

[Archie]

Yes Ghost, we know what you've said. You've said the Spurs never pursue star free agents like other team. You complained about that. Now what are the Spurs doing?

And yet you complain.

Don't talk to me about consistency you ing tool.

[adidas11]

Another stellar post by TwoHandJam.

And Archie, I think Ghost has always been a proponent of trading for a superstar player, instead of hoping a FA decides to come to San Antonio. Ghost was never a fan of the HOLTING PATTERN. By trading for a superstar player, they are forced to play for you. Hoping a FA decides to come to SA is leaving the fate in their hands, at best.

At least, that's what I think Ghost is trying to allude to.

[Archie]

Ghost just complains. And for the record he complained forever about why the Spurs weren't signing superstar free agents when they were capped out. That went on for a while, IIRC.

[Admiral]

If we only had a credible black assistant coach, perhaps the Holting Pattern would've turned out better.

[Ghost Writer]

TwoHand, thanks for the tips. I'll look into that.

Archie, you're the one giving up and complaining like the little b1tch you are. You need to vent your frustrations in a more healthy manner. Oh, and stop with all the lying about you being behind the Holt-ing Pattern 100%.



Admiral, as it turns out, we didn't need to hire acredible black assistant coach — Popovich finally trusted ballas to get the job done and they did.


IceMan, how's your cat's breath doing, dope?



adidas, thanks for separating fact from fiction. These homers can get really moody and need scapegoats when the going gets tough.

[Archie]

Ghost, no one believes a word you type. You're worse than Jayson Blair.

[Ghost Writer]

Good one, Archie. There's nothing to 'beleive'. All my posts are here for public viewing.

If you take exception to something, quote me and call me out. If you need someone or something to vent on, be my guest.

Feel better now?


Don't blame me if the Spurs have yet another failed offseason despite your angry insistance that things would be different because we finally had cap space.


Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Archie]

Sure Ghost. Everyone believes that you've been on the 'correct' side of every argument. Just go.

[Ghost Writer]

What is your problem, Arch?

I've done nothing but be supportive this summer.

Find another scapegoat.

Sorry for thinking differently than you. I can't help it that it's usually closer to reality.

[Archie]

Yeah Ghost, tell us about that reality in which the Spurs are not doing "anything".

'cept developing young players and winning a championship, of course.

[Ghost Writer]

Popovich had no other choice, but to play the youth. I told you that while you argued that Smitty would play this past season, because "... there's no way the Spurs pay $9 million to a player to sit on the bench."


You're digging the hole deeper, Archie. Leave me out of your frustrations. It's not healthy for you.

[Archie]

Ha. Get back to complaining about the Spurs not pursuing star free agents or was it their lack of a "credible black assistant coach" or was it Pop's inability to relate to players or...?

Don't even start. I know more about this than you do. I also am able to participate in a discussion without pretending that everything someone suggests is a guarantee it is going to happen. There's a reason we laugh at you. You are a moron.