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    Spurs get destroyed by Kevin Love, lose to the Mavs, I shudder to think when we play the Lakers with Bynum


    Spurs are the new Suns, let's enjoy the regular season before the heartbreak of the post season

    Pop needs to trade Hill and other to bring a legit Center to SA if they are serious about a le. Oberto being 6/10>>>Dyse 6/9


    think about it, our centers are 6ft 9inches and 6ft 7inches, and no one sees a problem? LMAO
    The Suns problem wasn't height, it was the fact that they played no defense at all, whatsoever.

    The Suns problem was that their PF was Amare, who was a big man who didn't rebound or play defense.

    The Suns problem was that their PG was Steve Nash, who couldn't play defense or guard quicker guards.

    The Suns problem wasn't their height.

    The Celtics won a le with Garnett and a 6'8 Glen Davis.

    The Heat won a le with Shaq and a 6'9 Mourning.

    The Spurs won with Duncan and Fab.

    You're entire argument is predicated on a falsehood you created for the state of creating an argument.

    You need to just pretend like you didn't start this thread and move on.

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    During the best year of the Run-n-Gun Suns, the 04-05 season, they were first in points per game but 30th in points allowed and 17th in points per 100 possessions. During the entire D'Antoni era they never finished better than 16th in points allowed per 100 possessions.

    The Spurs are currently sitting at 7th in points allowed per 100 possessions. Our defense is already much better than any of the elite Suns teams, and improving.

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    During the glory years with the Suns (Nash/Amare/Marion), they were great in the regular season scoring at ease. Come playoff time though they got exposed for having no big men and no legit rebounding. Spurs have Duncan, who is sadly a s of himself, and no other legit 7fter. Pop will make Splitter rot on the bench this season, we all know that. If we get in a playoff series with the Lakers we will get destroyed by there height. I even think the Mavs would beat us in 5 with there THREE 7ft big men.


    Only having 1 big man playing will work during the regular season when teams are playing different teams every night and have trouble adjusting, but like the Suns, we will get exposed in the playoffs by a team with bigs.
    This is a as valid as say we are also the new Bulls with Dennis Rodman as center that won it all.... which would be wrong.


    EVERY YEAR IS DIFFERENT, rules, quality of other teams, players and injuries. I think all the comparisons where people see some simple similarities are only valid in theory, and boy I'm glad we don't play in theory as it seems to be an impossible place to win.

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    ... I'm glad we don't play in theory as it seems to be an impossible place to win.
    +1

    Although for some is also an impossible place to lose.

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    we are better than the run n gun suns!!

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    Looking past the OP's flawed analogy to the Suns, there is a good observation buried here: if Splitter isn't a quality rotation player by end of the season, LA's big front line will present a huge problem. After all, without Perkins in the finals last year, Boston got out-sized by LA, to the extent that Kobe's crappy last game didn't matter. I agree that Duncan needs some help in the paint to compete well against LA. SA is not going to jump-shoot their way past them in a 7-game series. So the question is: is Splitter going to be that guy that helps Duncan man the paint, or is he going to "rot on the bench" as the OP put it?

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    The Suns never had this guy:



    They also didn't have a threat in the post-season outside of Amare and Nash. The Spurs were tailor-made to crush two-headed attacks in the post-season.

    Also, Tony Parker knows how to play defense. Steve Nash never figured that part of the NBA out.

    Mostly though, it's cause we have Duncan. And the man will still bring it in the real season.

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    Noob posters posting garbage as usual.
    Have you ever watched the SSOL suns play besides the playoff series they had against the Spurs or are you just basing your argument on what sportscenter show you?
    They have different philosophies..look it up.

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    During the glory years with the Suns (Nash/Amare/Marion), they were great in the regular season scoring at ease. Come playoff time though they got exposed for having no big men and no legit rebounding. Spurs have Duncan, who is sadly a s of himself, and no other legit 7fter. Pop will make Splitter rot on the bench this season, we all know that. If we get in a playoff series with the Lakers we will get destroyed by there height. I even think the Mavs would beat us in 5 with there THREE 7ft big men.


    Only having 1 big man playing will work during the regular season when teams are playing different teams every night and have trouble adjusting, but like the Suns, we will get exposed in the playoffs by a team with bigs.

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    this clown compared us to the failed suns?

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    Pop has the chance do better than those Suns, Spurs can play boring or fun bball. The fun style is awesome when the 3pt is on, lets see if they still can play the boring style.

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    lol, you're saying this one day after the Hornets put up 84 on us when we were playing our scrubs the whole 4th quarter...
    You need to look further ahead than just yesterday. The spurs frontline is still weak and will not get past the bigger teams in the league.

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    Looking past the OP's flawed analogy to the Suns, there is a good observation buried here: if Splitter isn't a quality rotation player by end of the season, LA's big front line will present a huge problem. After all, without Perkins in the finals last year, Boston got out-sized by LA, to the extent that Kobe's crappy last game didn't matter. I agree that Duncan needs some help in the paint to compete well against LA. SA is not going to jump-shoot their way past them in a 7-game series. So the question is: is Splitter going to be that guy that helps Duncan man the paint, or is he going to "rot on the bench" as the OP put it?
    Good point, too many people will key on the Suns analogy and miss the main point.

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    You mean the Suns who were at least good enough to reach consecutive conference finals without playing any defense at all, and who might well have won it all the following year if their All-NBA big man had just kept his ass planted on the bench?

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    I think Pop ditched the facial hair to avoid this exact comparison.

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    During the best year of the Run-n-Gun Suns, the 04-05 season, they were first in points per game but 30th in points allowed and 17th in points per 100 possessions. During the entire D'Antoni era they never finished better than 16th in points allowed per 100 possessions.

    The Spurs are currently sitting at 7th in points allowed per 100 possessions. Our defense is already much better than any of the elite Suns teams, and improving.

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    Hamed Haddadi is a top 5 player in the NBA.

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    LOL at trading Hill for a legit center...you could've at least started that before Hill started playing lights out. He's not being traded, he's an important part of the future of this team.

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    The bad timing of this stupid thread is funny. Spurs just demolished the Hornets and played fantastic O and fantastic D in the first half (game over). Scoring a lot of points in various wonderful creative ways and minimising the points of the opponents by playing smart and inspired D is a very good thing me thinks.

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    The difference is they could'nt make plays when it mattered, we never beat them by much we just made clutch plays and we still have players to do that. Splitter will be worked in Pop even said it's cause he missed training camp. And I don't know what your watching but is bynum better than love? I'm not so sure.

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    You mean the Suns who were at least good enough to reach consecutive conference finals without playing any defense at all, and who might well have won it all the following year if their All-NBA big man had just kept his ass planted on the bench?

    Damn you Boris diaw!!!!

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    You need to look further ahead than just yesterday. The spurs frontline is still weak and will not get past the bigger teams in the league.
    Rebounds per game 11th overall with 42.1
    Points allowed 12th overall with 97.8

    There's 30 teams, so we're essentially in the top 1/3 of the league in defense give or take a couple of teams and we've easily got a top 5 offense. We've also got intangibles which is a big reason we find ways to win games against teams like Minnesota who are up 15 going into the 4th. You're argument is pretty null and void man.

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    You need to look further ahead than just yesterday. The spurs frontline is still weak and will not get past the bigger teams in the league.
    In the playoffs it seems like it will definitely come down to the Spurs making their threes to get by Dallas or LA.

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    First, the Spurs became the Dallas Mavericks, then the Phoenix Suns. I can't wait for the Golden State Warriors.
    I hate to say it. But the Spurs are the new Charlotte Bobcats...

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    Warriors? Yellow shirts for everyone

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