A&M to Cotton bowl

[DesignatedT]

so now the new answer is a still unproven Mike Sherman.


lol you bragging about high stars just a few posts ago.

9-3 Cotton Bowl, Big 12 co champs. Only team ever to beat tu, OU and Nebraska in the same season. If he's still unproven than he's definitely on the right track.

Nah, just saw you hyping up your recruiting class this season. Tubbs is about to take that program into the dirt, and wont last but 3 years. You guys are about to be driven straight into years of mediocrity, but that's alright, I've been there.

[johngateswhiteley]

that's not what you alluded to.

you stated that getting to a bowl game helps in all those facets.

move the goalposts a little more and discuss how A&M's 1939 championship has helped recruiting in 2010.



I've seen it go both ways.

I'm betting you have no direct source regarding "trends" other than your ass.



na, it's the truth whether Tech will ever make it to a le game or not.


and just fyi:



you're an idiot.

i see you changed that le from 1950 to 1939, good work.

A&M has recruited well for quite some time, but recruiting is only part of winning and, unfortunately, we shot ourselves in the foot when it came to other areas.

If you watched college football for any real length of time, you'll notice most teams that made a quality bowl the year before tend to carry over that success. there are some that do not, and there are even times where year to year you will have some variation. but its all part of the bigger picture, like tracking companies...look at 3-5 year stretches and beyond. A&M has not put that together, but this is a heck of start especially with some real signature wins and a cotton bowl to boot.

* otherwise, why even play the sport? why not just let the so called best teams play for the le each year and everyone else stay home? because you have to build programs. each win, each bowl, etc are all steps along the way to becoming a successful program. how did florida state get there? miami? virginia tech? etc. its not rocket science, in fact, its obvious. if you and captain mike cannot see that, i'm not sure what to tell you.

of course, some schools like tekk and osu have built in disadvantages...thats life. they can have good years, but by and large they will not be able to overcome the likes of ou and t.u, and even A&M. A&M is also at a disadvantage compared to ou and t.u., but less so and more likely to break through now and again. its great that osu has beat A&M 3 times in a row, but the overall series is lopsided. further, tekk has enjoyed quite a bit of success over A&M, but I think you'll see that tide turn if it hasn't already. A&M was down for a looong time.

[Blake]

9-3 Cotton Bowl, Big 12 co champs. Only team ever to beat tu, OU and Nebraska in the same season. If he's still unproven than he's definitely on the right track.

Good team, right track, co-champs in a down year for the Big 12.

I wouldn't be bragging about beating a non-bowl team that lost to Baylor at home.

Nah, just saw you hyping up your recruiting class this season. Tubbs is about to take that program into the dirt, and wont last but 3 years. You guys are about to be driven straight into years of mediocrity, but that's alright, I've been there.

you're either trolling or you're an idiot.

if you're trolling, you're an idiot in a different way.

well done.

[johngateswhiteley]

Prove atm is better than Mizzou and OSU; oh, wait, you can't because it has already been proven otherwise.

lol, cynical little . Kettle.

i'm nothing close to cynical.

and you can laugh all you want, but fact is teams can progress through a season...some have even been known to get much better. clearly, that is what has happened with A&M. i doubt you'll admit it, but i know you've seen it.

[DesignatedT]

Just glad leach is gone.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Two bottom lines to this thread so far:

1.) A&M is MUCH better now than when they played oSu--the Cowboys absolutely won that game because JJ was a turnover machine. Do we win with Tannehill? Idk, but given that we dominated OU with RT at the helm late in the season, the same OU that walked into Stillwater and tore out the heart of a Cowboy team that had everything to play for, you gotta like A&M.

2.) Recruiting class smack is always, always WEAK. That goes for Aggies, too.

My $.02

[RedRaider]

People (aggy) who go out of their way just to spell Texas Tech (tceh, tekk etc) incorrectly are obviously threatened by Texas Tech's football program.

Texas A&M is pounding their chests because they strike GOLD one year and go 9-3... haha. Have fun getting pounded by a far superior LSU/Alabama team. Should be hilarious to watch.

[RedRaider]

Two bottom lines to this thread so far:

1.) A&M is MUCH better now than when they played oSu--the Cowboys absolutely won that game because JJ was a turnover machine. Do we win with Tannehill? Idk, but given that we dominated OU with RT at the helm late in the season, the same OU that walked into Stillwater and tore out the heart of a Cowboy team that had everything to play for, you gotta like A&M.

2.) Recruiting class smack is always, always WEAK. That goes for Aggies, too.

My $.02

Before 2009, A&M used recruiting class smack every single year for like 11 years straight.

[leemajors]

9-3 Cotton Bowl, Big 12 co champs. Only team ever to beat tu, OU and Nebraska in the same season. If he's still unproven than he's definitely on the right track.

Nah, just saw you hyping up your recruiting class this season. Tubbs is about to take that program into the dirt, and wont last but 3 years. You guys are about to be driven straight into years of mediocrity, but that's alright, I've been there.

Big 12 co-champs? I thought the championship game was this weekend.

[DesignatedT]

Not trying to use recruiting smack. As an Aggie, I clearly understand that a good recruiting class doesn't necessarily turn into W's. Thing about Shermans recruiting classes are that he is only recruiting high character kids who want to be an Aggie on and off the field. Go look back at coach frans top 10 recruiting classes and you will see 4 star recruits that never even played a down because they couldn't hack it in the classroom or would get kicked off the team for disciplinary reasons.

[Fpoonsie]

People (aggy) who go out of their way just to spell Texas Tech (tceh, tekk etc) incorrectly are obviously threatened by Texas Tech's football program.

How wonderfully ironic. You just HAFTA be somebody's troll...

[Sisk]

People (aggy) who go out of their way just to spell Texas Tech (tceh, tekk etc) incorrectly are obviously threatened by Texas Tech's football program.

Uhhhh....

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Before 2009, A&M used recruiting class smack every single year for like 11 years straight.

Duh, which is why I included the phrase "That goes for Aggies, too." I don't care whether you're an Aggie or not.

[Brutalis]

Arkansas might slide in there

Nope. Nutt isn't our coach anymore remember?

[Brutalis]

Aggies want LSU, cause Bama will roll you guys. No offense.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Aggies want LSU, cause Bama will roll you guys. No offense.

Give me either one--not gonna get "rolled" by anyone with our D playing up to their potential and RT keeping the offense out of its own way.

[The Reckoning]

Give me either one--not gonna get "rolled" by anyone with our D playing up to their potential and RT keeping the offense out of its own way.

thats what i thought of him too. doesn't make spectacular plays or disasterous plays either. he's just there to eat up game clock and give the defense time to rest.

[Brutalis]

LSU fans telling me that LSU accepted the invite from the Cotton Bowl this morning.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

thats what i thought of him too. doesn't make spectacular plays or disasterous plays either. he's just there to eat up game clock and give the defense time to rest.

Bing-effing-go! I've been trying (to little avail, in some cases) to get my fellow Aggie faithful to wake up and realize that Tannehill isn't some world-beating savior. Not to take anything away from him at all--he's a great kid and busts his ass every play he's on the field, whether at receiver or at QB. But at best he's an average QB, and worst he's a game manager. There's no mistaking who's the better athlete--that's Jerrod Johnson, hands down. However, Jerrod's decline in productivity and proclivity for turnovers, combined with Tannehill's relative consistency in remaining steady on offense (as opposed to Jerrod's tendency to follow up a spectacular play with a demoralizing turnover or sack), combined to make Tannehill the logical option for the second half of the season.

Prime example of Tannehill's value to this Aggie team is highlighted in juxtaposing the Mizzou and texas games. In the Mizzou game, the final score (30-9) was hardly indicative of the game the defense had. Jerrod's inconsistencies were consistent in putting the defense in terrible positions throughout the game, and when time came late in the 3rd for the D to get crucial stops, they were already gassed from having been on the field too long due to Johnson's leading disastrously abbreviated possessions.

In contrast RT's competent handling of the offense in the texas game is hardly reflected in the final score. He wasn't required to go on a game-winning drive (heck, we couldn't even really muster enough offense to take advantage of multiple opportunities to put the game on ice). However, his drives resulted in multiple first downs (giving the Wrecking Crew time to rest) and more importantly, no turnovers (putting the D in optimal position).

Long story short, I agree with The Reckoning

[Blake]

Give me either one--not gonna get "rolled" by anyone with our D playing up to their potential and RT keeping the offense out of its own way.

yes, the Aggies would get rolled by Bama.

Also, although RT has been better than Jerrod and probably beat Tech by himself, the Aggies recent success can be attributed more to the change at RB than the change at QB.

[rjv]

yes, the Aggies would get rolled by Bama.

Also, although RT has been better than Jerrod and probably beat Tech by himself, the Aggies recent success can be attributed more to the change at RB than the change at QB.

not really. they did not change RB at all. they got short handed when michael got hurt and so gray just got more carries. michael was actually the leading rusher at the time and more of the in between tackle runner.

what no one else is mentioning is that a&m had to start 2 freshmen at tackle (the most important postion at the o-line). in the the early part of the season they were just too inexperienced and committed penalties and made poor mistakes that led to sacks. in the second half of the season both holding penalties and sacks went way down. they will both be all big XII linemen next year.

on the defensive end they adjusted to the 3-4 scheme that coach dereuyter was implementing and von miller started getting sacks again (after none in his first 4 games).

[DesignatedT]

yes, the Aggies would get rolled by Bama.

Also, although RT has been better than Jerrod and probably beat Tech by himself, the Aggies recent success can be attributed more to the change at RB than the change at QB.

wrong.

[Blake]

Gray:

OkSt: 5 carries, loss

Ark: 5 carries, loss

Mizzou: 1 carry, loss

Kansas 13 carries 100+ yds, win

Tech: 16 carries, 100+ yds win

OU: 21 carries, 100+ yds, win

Baylor: 28 carries, 100+ yards, win

Neb: 26 carries, 200 total yards, win

UT: 27 carries, 200+ yards, win


On season:

Michael: 5.0 yards per carry
Gray: 5.7 yards per carry

wrong.

having to have a Tech fan spell out your team for you

[Blake]

not really. they did not change RB at all. they got short handed when michael got hurt and so gray just got more carries. michael was actually the leading rusher at the time and more of the in between tackle runner.

right, they changed RBs due to Mchael being hurt.

and Gray's big play ability has been a difference maker, notably against UT.

[Doug Collins]

Gray:

OkSt: 5 carries, loss

Ark: 5 carries, loss

Mizzou: 1 carry, loss

Kansas 13 carries 100+ yds, win

Tech: 16 carries, 100+ yds win

OU: 21 carries, 100+ yds, win

Baylor: 28 carries, 100+ yards, win

Neb: 26 carries, 200 total yards, win

UT: 27 carries, 200+ yards, win


On season:

Michael: 5.0 yards per carry
Gray: 5.7 yards per carry



having to have a Tech fan spell out your team for you

Jerrod Johnson not throwing 5 interceptions a game has also been pretty helpful in turning the season around (he had like 10 turnovers in those 3 losses).

Gray has been essential to taking pressure of Tannehill, but our running game was still strong when he was splitting time with Michael. Gray's impact has been important, but the lack of dumbass turnovers is the bigger reason we won 6 straight.