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    I dont claim that there is only one type, or that we are being maliciously poisoned etc, I only claim that there is such a thing as "chemtrails," and that congress has tried to stop the practice.
    I have little doubt that chemicals can be sprayed by low-level flights of tanker planes in a manner similar to crop dusting.

    That is by far not what the people who talk about "chemtrails" means.

    I think, if anything, the staffer, if not Mr. Kucinich himself, that worked up the language used a misnomer at best, and poor research at worst.

    Such a misnomer or poor research would be pointed out by the DOD as well.

    "There is no such thing as "chemtrails", so you might want to remove that from the bill, or risk looking like an idiot" would suffice to provide enough motivation to remove the word from the bill, would it not?

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    I have little doubt that chemicals can be sprayed by low-level flights of tanker planes in a manner similar to crop dusting.

    That is by far not what the people who talk about "chemtrails" means.

    I think, if anything, the staffer, if not Mr. Kucinich himself, that worked up the language used a misnomer at best, and poor research at worst.

    Such a misnomer or poor research would be pointed out by the DOD as well.

    "There is no such thing as "chemtrails", so you might want to remove that from the bill, or risk looking like an idiot" would suffice to provide enough motivation to remove the word from the bill, would it not?
    Maybe if Parker could show us some video that is from a sprayer, and not from the engines, wing tips, etc... some of us might look into it more.

    Where's the videos Parker?

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    I only claim that there is such a thing as "chemtrails,"
    Yet you can't define what they are?

    Define the term.

    Put up or shut up.




    or, you can keep digging that hole of FAIL. It is amusing to watch, so I'm good either way.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    lets make it easy: chemtrails is anything other than contrails.

    Contrails dissapate realtively quickly. They dont hold form from horizon to horizon. We see streaks across the sky every day that defy this tendency. I understand the science behind contrails. They are pretty easy to spot actually. They begin dispersing within a matter of minutes...not hours.
    The above is simply wrong. On most days here in NM this winter I've observed contrails lasting for hours. They can most definitely last from horizon to horizon.


    A couple of the weather men in those vids posted earlier explain that the military drops chaff to confuse radar, and this likely means there is routine training with the stuff, so that is one form of confirmed type of chemtrail, if you believe those professionals.
    LOL @ weathermen being experts in anything other than tossing it back to an anchor.

    In any event, do you know what chaff is? Its a bunch of strips of radar reflective mylar. Its not a chemical trail of any sort.

    I dont claim that there is only one type, or that we are being maliciously poisoned etc, I only claim that there is such a thing as "chemtrails," and that congress has tried to stop the practice.

    RG as for your unicorn meat analogy, I dont think it holds water, and here is why: we can very safely assume that any congressmen who takes the time to draft and submit legislation will not spend much time "making up" to include in the bill to prevent future government activity from taking place.

    I think Kucinich's list of "exotic weapons" was drafted with an eye on secret military activity already taking place, or he wouldnt have dedicated time and energy to it.

    Actually I think we all know that, but you guys just like to argue

    If your unicorn meat argument is to stand, why didnt Kucinich throw in time travel and star trek transporters?
    I'll probably never say this again, but WC did a great job in this thread. Its scary.

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    Unless some of these planes are flying incredibly fast, these contrails are most definitely lasting hours.

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    Parker's MO is that if even one person on the inside says that A happened, it must have, even though the majority say it didn't.

    What about that US Air Force officer who said that the government is hiding alien artifacts? Do you buy that too?

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    Unless some of these planes are flying incredibly fast, these contrails are most definitely lasting hours.
    If you look long enough, you'll see the word "FAIL" spelled out.

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    Besides, it is completely uncons utional. Congress cannot dictate the presidents actions!
    Within reason.

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    So if I showed you a picture of canned unicorn meat, you would think it exists?


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    What's funny is that even if planes were spraying chemicals, I don't see what they'd be hoping to accomplish. Acid rain or something?

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    Damn Reptilians

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    When I was a kid, the phenomena of the everlasting contrail didnt exist. I remember watching contrails disapate behind fighter jets from my grandmother's front yard almost as fast as they were lain, because I was fascinated by fighter jets as a boy. I dont have any need to disbelieve what my eyes tell me either.

    My take: geo-engineering experimentation. Kucinich's take: something that the DOD wants to conduct in secret and without interference.

    Proponents have asserted that because explicit reference to chemtrails was entered by Congressman Kucinich into the congressional record, this cons utes official government acknowledgment of their existence.[18][25] That bill received an unfavorable evaluation from the United States Department of Defense and died in committee,[26] with no mention of chemtrails appearing in the text of any of the three subsequent failed attempts by Kucinich to enact a Space Preservation Act.

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    My take: geo-engineering experimentation.
    What are your sources on that, or is this just more bluster and bull ?

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    btw: the vids throughout this thread are pretty good if you have the time.

    And RG, chemtrail is simply a contrail with a chemical component which is not the result of normal aircraft residue in the upper atmosphere.

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    What are your sources on that, or is this just more bluster and bull ?
    thats pure speculation, based on what Ive seen. But then again, anybody's take on this is a guess, period. There is no official source copping to the truth. So what else did you expect. When the case remains unsolved, detectives are left to their hunches.

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    btw: i wouldnt put any faith about my "guess."

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    When I was a kid, I remember that I used to be able to buy candy for a nickel. Obviously, a conspiracy is afoot, because I can't do that now.

    I seemingly remember being invincible then. Must be all the flouride I've ingested that made me vulnerable.

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    When you were a kid - contrails lasted for a long time in the same weather conditions that allow them to persist today. Whether or not you observed that I cannot say, but that has more to do with you than any change to the contrails.

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    kucinich's painful experiene tends to push things toward secret military operations.

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    thats pure speculation, based on what Ive seen. But then again, anybody's take on this is a guess, period. There is no official source copping to the truth. So what else did you expect. When the case remains unsolved, detectives are left to their hunches.
    The truth? Could it be that the truth is they are persistent contrails? Who would cop to the obvious?

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    This just in: Fire is hot!

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    When you were a kid - contrails lasted for a long time in the same weather conditions that allow them to persist today. Whether or not you observed that I cannot say, but that has more to do with you than any change to the contrails.
    I dont think you can speak to the time when I was a kid, Manny. You can assume to, but your also assuming the military isnt involved in any unreported activity in the upper atmosphere today, which I think is pretty arrogant. Not trying to offend here, just saying.

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    I dont think you can speak to the time when I was a kid, Manny. You can assume to, but your also assuming the military isnt involved in any unreported activity in the upper atmosphere today, which I think is pretty arrogant. Not trying to offend here, just saying.
    You know, I'm pretty sure that water tasted sweet back when I was a kid. You can't prove me wrong. It must be a gov't conspiracy to desweeten the water.

    You can assume that I'm making it up, but it's just that, an assuption. That's pretty arrogant of you. Not trying to offend, just saying.

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    I dont think you can speak to the time when I was a kid, Manny. You can assume to, but your also assuming the military isnt involved in any unreported activity in the upper atmosphere today, which I think is pretty arrogant. Not trying to offend here, just saying.
    Unreported military activity in the upper atmosphere could be a search for a decent beer...it could be a search for Elvis....it's a stretch to assume that the unreported activity has indeed been reported and it's chemtrails.

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