View Poll Results: Did the Magic get better or worse?

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  1. #26
    I needs six for my fix. UnWantedTheory's Avatar
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    I think the trade works out for everyone. PHX gets some decent young players in Gortat & Pietrus, & can get rid of VC after the year.(?)Also, I believe a 1st, so that is good. They may possibly have talent enough to still squeak into the PO's, which was all they were going to do anyways. The Magic had to shake things up, so getting Hedo back, who fit so well previously, & a young talented JRich is a decent deal. The Reshard/Arenas trade Idk about. It actually might be a good fit. Both are terrible contracts for the Magic so eh. It probably helps the jam at G with the Wiz & getting rid of Arenas is a major plus for them. I dont really think the Magic greatly improved, but I do think that down the road they will be better for it. To be honest, they were not going to truly challenge for the chip this year so why not? It makes them better, if only marginally. The ugly side of that trade for ORL is losing Gortat, since now they only have 1 legit C. It will be interesting to see how they figure out that G rotation from here on out. Who knows it could have been genius. I am not too worried about them though.

  2. #27
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    Somewhat better.
    I did like the Lewis for Arenas swap, I feel that Arenas is more likely to show up in a big game situation. Plus Arenas might try for the first year since he wants to repair his image.
    The second deal w/ Phoenix is ok, but it will depend on how Turk plays, what they do w/ Richardson this off-season, and if Arenas can stay healthy. Hedo's ($10M) & Arenas' ($18M) contract's are both kinda long at 4 years each. Losing Gortat will hurt since finding a decent 7 foot backup is kinda hard. In the end they're still better built than the Heat and I think they would win in a 7 game series.

  3. #28
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    They got better but not enought to win the East. Lewis and Carter were playing horrible

  4. #29
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    Wrong thread so GTFO with that LeHype/Wade . I guarantee you they ain't winning . I'd sig bet you, but I know your punkass have no honor.
    You mentioned the Heat saying they are not the ones to worry about. I was just stating that now they have no one to guard either Wade or Lebron. Don't get your panties in a wad.
    Like LO, Hedo can rebound a miss, take it coast to coast, dish, and shoot the 3. Not many players in the league 6'10" can do that. Too bad he isn't as tough nor play any defense. That's where the comparisons stop.
    Hedo not is anywhere close to the defender or rebounder LO is so saying they're similar is reaching IMO
    You mention Boston's multiple defenders. With Hedo, Gil, and Jameer all on the court at once it is hard for them to shut down one player and have their offense stall like in the past. All can shoot the 3 and all can make plays for themselves and others. They should provide a lot of space for D12 to operate down low
    I mentioned Boston multiple defenders, but the ones they can send at Howard are who I was referring to. Shaq and Perkins are capable of guarding him one on one, therefore everyone else can stay at home on shooters.

  5. #30
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    Well I don't think this question can be answered yet. Personally, I think the move is just a move right now. It doesn't make them much better or worse. If they can deal for some front court depth in the near future though, which I am sure they are trying to do, then yes they will be much better.

    Right now I think Orlando could beat Miami if they got hot, but not Boston. They need to get some new front court depth behind Howard ASAP.

  6. #31
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    Suns got the best of this trade, definitely.

  7. #32
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    Serious q, if lewis was the thrid most expensive contract in the league, who is one and two?
    According to Hoopshype.com, he is due to make 20 million this season. That is second only to Kobe's 24 million.

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

  8. #33
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    Well I believe the suns got the best of this deal, getting rid of jrich and hedos overrated contract gives them a huge financal boost. Um and for the magic uh Idk, were in the are they pulling out this kinda cash to pay for arenas,j rich and hedo??? Not to mention d Howard and a new stadium.

  9. #34
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    Defensively this team will suffer.

    Hedo, J-Rich, and Arenas are not known for their defensive prowess, and against teams with quality SF's like Boston/Miami they will have trouble on the perimeter. Offensively they should improve, I never felt that Carter was a good fit at all. Hedo is the PERFECT fit for the Magic's system and they will welcome him back, J-Rich and Arenas are wild cards but my gut is telling me they will do well in the Magic offense.

    They still need some more pieces, but overall this should help them move in the direction they want to go in.

  10. #35
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    You mentioned the Heat saying they are not the ones to worry about. I was just stating that now they have no one to guard either Wade or Lebron. Don't get your panties in a wad.
    I didn't mention the Hype in this thread - you did.

    Hedo not is anywhere close to the defender or rebounder LO is so saying they're similar is reaching IMO
    Tell me something I don't know. I said Hedo is 6'10", can ignite a fast break, and can take it the distance just like LO can. I even said he can't play defense like LO. Reading is fundamental.
    I mentioned Boston multiple defenders, but the ones they can send at Howard are who I was referring to. Shaq and Perkins are capable of guarding him one on one, therefore everyone else can stay at home on shooters.
    Boston does have multiple post defenders to throw at D12 - agreed. 39 year old Shaq guarding D12 one on one - disagreed. Porkins - yes if he returns healthy.

  11. #36
    Zip it up and Zip it out. WeNeedLength's Avatar
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    Their defense is going to suck ass now. J-Rich should improve their offense though since Lewis and Carter were choking on it most of the time to start the season. I say it's a wash as someone else said. It will be interesting to see how the Suns are now.

  12. #37
    Silence surpasses speech. duncan228's Avatar
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    LeBron James understands why Orlando brought Hedo Turkoglu back
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    When the Orlando Magic reacquired Hedo Turkoglu this weekend in their batch of megatrades, the biggest reaction was confusion. Why would they bring back Turkoglu, who had been let go in 2009 because the Magic felt his skills would erode with age, and then that exact thing occurred? He was a washout with Toronto after he signed his huge deal with them. When you signing elsewhere is something the Blazers are grateful for, you’re in bad shape. He was just as unimpressive with Phoenix. Who could possibly explain why the Magic wanted him back in blue?

    LeBron James, that’s who.

    From Wizards blog TruthAbou .Net, who caught up with James after the Wizards’ devastating loss to the Heat:

    “I’ve thought that it was surprising when Turk (Hedo Turkoglu) wasn’t brought back the year after they beat us [Cleveland Cavaliers]. I just thought what Turk created for their team, that point-four created everything. He always created a mismatch and that was part of the reason why they beat us. There were times I would switch off onto Turk and they would go to Rashard (Lewis). Sometimes I would go on Rashard and they would go to Turk. We were too small on the perimeter during those years … I know they’re happy to have him back. It’s gonna be different, it’s going to be a different transition because I know when you break up a team and bring guys in it takes a while. We’ll see what happens.”

    via Truth About It » Quote Mix: Ten good minutes with a mumbling LeBron James.

    James has had his fair share of experiences with changes to contending teams. His Cavs made several moves mid-season to try and get them over the top, including acquiring Ben Wallace and Wally Szczerbiak (yes, this was a real plan), and another move to acquire Antawn Jamison. Of course, that neither move wound up netting the small-market Cavaliers a championship, nor did they keep LeBron James in town should not go unnoticed as everyone starts glancing at Dwight Howard out of the corner of their eyes.

    It was revealing though to read James’ comments about the Magic’s ability to work over a stout Cavalier defense in 2009 with Turkoglu running point forward. It was that mechanism that could kick start defensive rotations to cover, enabling the Magic to find the open three-point shooter. The Cavs weren’t the only team that fell victim to that tactic though, as the much heralded Boston Celtics also lost to the Turkoglu Magic. But of course, you have to mention, everyone together, say it with me…

    Kevin Garnett didn’t play in that series.

    It was two years ago, and hoping for a repeat of that performance is probably a fool’s errand considering the inevitable downward slide of Turkoglu’s abilities which have already lost quite a bit, and Boston being some sort of beast sent to destroy us all this season. But if you’re looking for why Orlando might think it that important, James points out a salient point.

    Also, he thinks Justin Bieber is a “cook kid, man.” So there’s that.
    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...turkoglu-back/

  13. #38
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    Basically as in players getting dealt
    Orlando lost : VC , Lewis,Gortat,Pietrus
    Orlando got : Arenas, Turkoglu ,J-Rich , Earl Clark

    Did they get better or worse?

    maybe better offensively been weaker defensively and defense is what wins les when it counts....and Arenas, Jameer, Hedo, J Rich, ain't stopping no ing body...Magic doing everything they can to keep Dwight but mark Kool's words...that will be traded to LA for Bynum in a couple years...Kobe will be sitting on 7 rings when Dwight joins him...paving the way for another 3 after that which will leave Kobe with 10 total and just one shy of Bill Russell...

    Man you gotta love being a Lakers fan...the past was great, the present is marvelous , and future looks ing fabulous..

  14. #39
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    Got better by simply shipping off Carter. You won't go anywhere with that loser playing significant minutes.

  15. #40
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    Tough to say. A lot of ifs. If Arenas' isn't totally broken, if Hedo tries again and if J-Rich can put down the liquor, it'll probably make them better. But Arenas probably is broken, Hedo probably won't care now that he has his final NBA contract and J-Rich probably will probably keeping getting his drank on.

    That said, they weren't going anywhere before the trade. They weren't going to win anything relying on VC's non-compe iveness and Lewis' quickly declining game.
    Say what? JRich doesn't have a drinking problem. I think you're referring to the DUI he got two years ago, but he's been an upstanding citizen ever since. Great teammate, great locker room guy, he'll be great for the Magic, no doubt.

  16. #41
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    Hedo was a decent rebounder for the Spurs, 6 or 7 per game.

    No reason a six-tenner can't get that every game (except laziness or ballessness)

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