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IMO, a city doing a once a month big pickup is perfect and completely reasonable
I think they sell giant tree bags for disposal that you could put the tree in to take it to drop off. Or use some giant lawn garbage bags from each end.
IMO, a city doing a once a month big pickup is perfect and completely reasonable
I am not sure if I this flies at all, but maybe the reason it would be environmentally better is that as less and less people buy real trees, there are fewer farms growing them. They will convert that land to some other use. Perhaps growing veggies, perhaps a parking lot, whatever. Anyway, trees convert more carbon to oxygen in their growing phase than they do when matured. Since these farms are constantly growing new trees, they use more carbon, than say a lettuce farm, or a parking lot would.
You can attack this if you will, it is not researched or anything, just off the top of my head.
What an epic fail.
No, because of all cities working to be more green, there are certain things they do their best not to put in landfills. That's why you now have garbage, recyclables, and yard debris. The yard debris stuff goes to places that compost it.
Damn you make re ed ass analogies. A more appropriate one would've been "would you expect tax payer dollars to come pick up that smelly bag of stained diapers and throw it away for you too? You must take care of the issue you created!!!"
...which is stupid as . Christmas tree after xmas = garbage. Hence, the garbage workers, hired by the city, should come pick that up.
Correct me if I'm wrong, you're a liberal. You should applaud such efforts of the city to do things right.
Why?
Because if a person can bring it home, I think they can take care of it also?
It's a service paid for separately from garbage in some locations. Rightly so if you ask me. Why should the cost to everyone pay for a service that maybe half or less of the households use?
As for the diaper analogy... Only those who love the nanny state expect others to do for them. Don't nanny's often change other peoples children diapers?
We're talking about trees. Not diapers - get over it.
It's a service that has been and should still be provided. Should people have to go find somewhere to dispose of all their trash? Should we pave our own roads? We pay for these services and should receive them. All that "going green" crap is a cop-out for the city to save a dime IMO.
It's not trash. It's compostable material and is treated different, thanks to liberal green thinking policies. It should get collected like other lawn debris like cut grass.
$225 sounds high to me. I think I got my 6.5 footer after Christmas on sale for less than $100, with lights.
The only issue is that last year, some of the strands finally went out and it was a pain to try to find the bad bulbs. If I had it to do again, I'd buy it without the prelights.
You're on the right track according to this article.
and it loooks like I was wrong about 7 years.......you have to keep it for 20+.......
......“I’m very environmentally conscious,” Ms. Jones said. “I’ll keep it [artificial tree] for 10 years, and that’s 10 trees that won’t be cut down.”
But Ms. Jones and the millions of others buying fake trees might not be doing the environment any favors.
In the most definitive study of the perennial real vs. fake question, an environmental consulting firm in Montreal found that an artificial tree would have to be reused for more than 20 years to be greener than buying a fresh-cut tree annually. The calculations included greenhouse gas emissions, use of resources and human health impacts.
“The natural tree is a better option,” said Jean-Sebastien Trudel, founder of the firm, Ellipsos, that released the independent study last year. ........
more:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/18/bu...nt/18tree.html
in SA, starting in February, big items will be picked up separately once a year.
Brush piles will be picked up twice a year. If there are bulky items like appliances discarded out with the brush pile, they won't pick it up any more.
That seems reasonable to me.
Burn the tree.
so, next, when they decide to go to once every two years for bulky items, that will seem reasonable too?Brush piles will be picked up twice a year. If there are bulky items like appliances discarded out with the brush pile, they won't pick it up any more.
That seems reasonable to me.
to me? no.
Hopefully it will seem unreasonable to the city manager as well.
I'm afraid at that point, the only thing that will seem reasonable to the city manager will be to impose huge fines on anyone with more than their share of bulky items.
Welcome to the real world and budget crunches. Stop relying on the nanny state and rely on yourself.
My understanding is cutting down a tree is environmentally neutral. It captures carbon dioxide as it grows, but as it decays, it releases it. Zero sum. The plastic trees, like all things plastic, use fossil fuel and depends on if you recycle it or throw it away.
I think his complaint was that we pay a lot for these "services" but we get less and less services all the time.
I don't disagree with that take. However, what is the solution? Money only goes so far, and government run/contracted services are so much less efficient than a free market approach. Who's going to pay for it?
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Margaret Thatcher:
“socialism is a great idea till you run out of other people’s money.”
If you have the room in your backyard, Christmas trees make excellent bird habitats. Remove all of the decorations. Make sure there is no tinsel or flocking. You can also attach a bird feeder.
While I'm not happy about the bulky items being picked up once a year--the city really doesn't end up picking up that much because I've never had anything I put out for pick up stay at the curb longer than a few hours. The scavengers get it before the city does!
Heloise?If you have the room in your backyard, Christmas trees make excellent bird habitats. Remove all of the decorations. Make sure there is no tinsel or flocking. You can also attach a bird feeder.
Apparently they'll still be doing twice a year brush pick ups, so the longest you'd have to keep the tree in your backyard would be 6 months....
Good idea- save it for your next brush pick up time if you have somewhere to put it.
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