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  1. #26
    Archie
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    Well, that's my point. Kidd already can credibly threaten to go to SA because he would be netting more $$$ here. If he wants the 7th year then NJ would pretty much be forced to participate in a S&T. It would look petty on their part to keep Kidd from getting that $$$ elsewhere. SA sends back a future 2nd rounder and change.

    Of course, this assumes that SA would be willing to give that 7th year...

  2. #27
    scott
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    Why would we be willing to give the 7th year?

    The only leverage Kidd has to get the 7th year is the threat of signing with us anyway (for 6 years). Why do we want to give the 7th year, pay the 12.5% raises instead of the 10%, and be faced with a cap penalty for the over 36 for 6 years?

  3. #28
    Archie
    Guest
    Well, that would raise the stakes. Perhaps the Spurs can just use NJ's threat to not participate in the S&T as a reason. Spurs are already offering Kidd more $$$ after-tax, of course.

  4. #29
    scott
    Guest
    I really only see 3 possible outcomes.

    1) Kidd signs max six year deal with Spurs
    2) Kidd signs max six year deal with Nets
    3) Kidd signs max seven year deal with Nets

    The Spurs really have no incentive to even think about the 7th year, because it offers no marginal utility.

    The only way Kidd could get that 7th year from us would be to say that he isn't coming here unless we worked the S&T for the 7 year deal. But then the Nets have no incentive to do a S&T, because the threat Kidd will leave disappears.

  5. #30
    ChumpDumper
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    Of course, this assumes that SA would be willing to give that 7th year...
    If SA did, isn't the seventh year prorated over the preceding six?

    Doesn't that pretty much kill the Spurs' remaining cap space this summer?

  6. #31
    Aggie Hoopsfan
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    If he forced us to that 7th year then he'd have to get used to his buddy Donny Marshall playing significant minutes at the 5 spot, because we wouldn't have any money left.

    F that.

    AHF

  7. #32
    Archie
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    As long as NJ refuses to give that 7th year the Spurs are in the thick of things with Kidd, IMO.

  8. #33
    GrandeDavid
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    Dusty what? Dusty shelves? I clicked that link and came to a page requesting a username and password. Upon further reflection I recalled that that was the cheezy site I got banned from for reasons God only knows of. I'll be sure to give that site props at the ole country club where some Spurs folks (players, a coach, lots of season ticket holders) hang out.

  9. #34
    GrandeDavid
    Guest
    Remember, this is professional sports and in this era of free agency you don't exactly where your loyalty on your sleeve. Kidd going to San Antonio would not exactly be treason, so don't think for a second that a moral dilemma is bugging him. Hey, on the brighter side for Nets fans if they do lose Kidd- at least they should be a lottery team by the time Sebastian Telfair throws his name into the NBA draft lottery.

  10. #35
    KoriEllis
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    The Spurs are in the thick of things with Kidd right now.

    There is a lot of behind the scenes stuff going on between Kidd and NJ. The Spurs are right there.

  11. #36
    Archie
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    I'd say the signing of Donny Marshall to the Spurs' summerleague team is one of a signal.

    Of course I really hope the Spurs tell Kidd to go away and they sign Michael Olowokandi. Maybe they can deal away Malik Rose too I've never really liked the fact that he is 6'7". I learned that all PFs must be 6'9" or taller and him being 6'7" troubles me.

    Yeah.

  12. #37
    Aggie Hoopsfan
    Guest
    Archie if you disagree that's fine, but quit bringing up Kandi when he's not an option we're looking at.

    AHF

  13. #38
    kohai
    Guest
    I think that if the Spurs ultimately end up with Kidd, Pop should send a "thank you" card to Rod Thorn. That old skool "He knows what we have to offer" negotiating stance is going to get him a lottery team when Kidd departs. If there is ONE thing that players want besides being shown the money, it's being shown "the love". Thorn is coming across as a stuck up blowhard.

  14. #39
    Archie
    Guest
    OK, I'm sorry...according to Johnny Ludden it is Rasho Nesterovic. I will make the change.

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