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    stephen jackson ain't putting us over the top. He's not even the 2nd option Butler was (not a guy that can take over for stretches and create his own, shot) and Dirk still needed more help on top of that. SJax would be a step back from where we already just were.
    At least Sjax can actually play SG unlike Butler. If we can get Sjax for cheap I would definitely make that trade.

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    Hamilton is putting up 13ppg on 41% from the field on the lowly Pistons, and SJax is also shooting 41% from the field. Either of those guys as our 2nd option spells disaster.
    Never said they needed to be 2nd options, just replace Butler if he is out and pick up his production. I never considered Butler as the #2, the Mavs do not have a clear cut 2 man in my mind.

    Mavs work better when they have 4 or 5 guys in double figures and are sharing the wealth.
    Butler hardly played the 4th most times in favor of Marion

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    Iggy or Melo plz.
    melo - yes.
    iggy - no.

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    iggy is so overrated. he's just an athletic monster with no jump shot. the only remarkable thing about his game is his dunking ability.

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    the more i see Iggy and G-Force, the less interested I am. They'd be nice and all, but don't interest me nearly as much as Stephen Jackson. As crazy as that guy is, you know he'll be ready for any dogfight in the playoffs. Knowing the Mavs history of folding in the playoffs when things get tough, it will be important for guys like Chandler and (hopefully) Jackson to be the ones to set the tone and prove that we've got the stomach for the fight this time around.

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    i like stephen jackson..he's a tough guy. even though his career shooting% is pretty low, he doesn't hesitate to take the last shot. he's a guy you can rely on when it counts. the reverse jason terry if you want.

    and his defense is really good.

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    SJax ain't the savior, mav fan. he'd be nice in addition to another impact player though.
    Not the savior, but he'd be an upgrade over Butler, especially in the playoffs. He's better on defense and equal on offense. But Jackson's been known to step up in the playoffs and Butler hasn't done that. Gimme SJax and one thing is for sure, in the playoffs Dirk won't be the only one showing up, while everyone else on the floor is bending over and taking it up the ass. Jackson and Chandler both will show up come playoff time.

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    Jackson is a much better all around player. His one downside is his ability to chuck up terrible shots hence is subpar fg%. maybe on a team like the mavs it would get under control. Jackson is a better defender and can facilitate the offense unlike Caron and is a legit SG

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    Whatever needs to be done better be done asap so that the Mavs can build chemistry all over again with new players if a trade is made.
    Otherwise wait for Roddy B and go to battle with what you have.
    Either way I have faith in this team

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    iggy is so overrated. he's just an athletic monster with no jump shot. the only remarkable thing about his game is his dunking ability.
    Do you like defense and rebounding?

    Iggy is a smart player ( 5.5/1.8 ast/tov) that is capable of taking over a game offensively when he's feeling it; which is something the Mavs desperately need in the playoffs when Dirk goes into bed- ting mode. That is, unless you're content with Terry in that role.

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    Do you like defense and rebounding?

    Iggy is a smart player ( 5.5/1.8 ast/tov) that is capable of taking over a game offensively when he's feeling it; which is something the Mavs desperately need in the playoffs when Dirk goes into bed- ting mode. That is, unless you're content with Terry in that role.
    Yeah we'll desperately need his experience dominating Toronto and New Jersey come WC playoff time.

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    It's not a debatable slight upgrade though. Iggy is a much better basketball player than Butler or Jax and it's not close.

    Ah yes don't want to disrupt that perennial team playoff failure chemistry Dallas has going.

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    How much of Captains low shooting percentage is due to him jacking up bad shots because he's dumb, and how much is due to jacking up shots because the team around him sucks?

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    Do you like defense and rebounding?

    Iggy is a smart player ( 5.5/1.8 ast/tov) that is capable of taking over a game offensively when he's feeling it; which is something the Mavs desperately need in the playoffs when Dirk goes into bed- ting mode. That is, unless you're content with Terry in that role.
    when has he proven that?

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    the more i see Iggy and G-Force, the less interested I am. They'd be nice and all, but don't interest me nearly as much as Stephen Jackson. As crazy as that guy is, you know he'll be ready for any dogfight in the playoffs. Knowing the Mavs history of folding in the playoffs when things get tough, it will be important for guys like Chandler and (hopefully) Jackson to be the ones to set the tone and prove that we've got the stomach for the fight this time around.
    Thats the thing that intrigues me most about Jackson tbh.

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    How much of Captains low shooting percentage is due to him jacking up bad shots because he's dumb, and how much is due to jacking up shots because the team around him sucks?
    Jackson literally thinks he's as good as Kobe. Just ask him.

    Iggy had a pretty solid run with USA basketball and became a willing passer/team player. The staff loves him. He's been in a situation most of his career and playing next to an offensive stud like Dirk would do wonders for him.

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    Jackson literally thinks he's as good as Kobe. Just ask him.
    he almost shoots as well as kobe so..

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    If a trade gets done it's going to be imo Jackson or Hamilton.
    I'll be fine with either.

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    Quick thought that came to mind today.
    We have heard that the Mavs are taking their time with Roddy B. and are in no rush to get him back if not 100%.
    Well with this news if it turns out to be bad, do the Mavs maybe rush Roddy back???

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    Why do we need a stockpile at SG anyway? beaubois, jet, jackson, stevenson, all getting rotation minutes?
    He isn't a 2, is he??? I always thought he was a 3, either way he would play 3 if he was traded here

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    If a trade gets done it's going to be imo Jackson or Hamilton.
    I'll be fine with either.
    Jackson- yes.
    Hamilton- probably not.
    Maybe if its confirmed that Butler is out for the season, and every other trade rumor falls through, then I would look into it.
    Why do we need a stockpile at SG anyway? beaubois, jet, jackson, stevenson, all getting rotation minutes?
    If we got Jackson and Roddy comes back healthy, Stevenson would be cut out of the PO rotation. Franklin can go suck a for all I care. The guy cannot be relied upon for anything, and the Mavs consistent reliance on him for offense is one of the biggest reasons for their continued playoff failure.

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    Someone mentioned earlier that he could play the 2 unlike Butler, and im like wtf? You're right he'd be a 3 here. Dude's 6'8 anyway.
    His skill set is 10x more guard like than Howard or Butler. He can handle the ball and run an offense better than anyone on the mavs not named Jason Kidd.

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    This is why I don't understand certain Mavs fans on other boards pressing the panic button.
    Butler is a good player but the Mavs have options out their to replace him if it comes to that. When you think about the news that could have been with Dirk earlier in the week , the Mavs are very lucky.

    I think with the injuries to Dirk and Marion and now the news with Butler and factor into that a 3 game losing streak it tends to look alot worse then it actually is

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    sjax is a sg, always been and that won't change. he's almost as comfortable with the 3 position as butler is with the 2.

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