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    "By the way I am a teacher ,I had to study years of child development and psyc ,as well as subject material ,how everyone now thinks they can home school is a joke.Even Judge Judy asks what university did you graduate from ?when someone says they home school.How do they feel so qualified!"
    This quote, taken from a post in scott's link, provides an excellent example of why parents should to be able to choose where their children attend school. I doubt that even the most ardent public school supporter would be comfortable having this individual "teaching" their child.

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    You would have a point if schools spent $11k per student but they don't...the avg public school education is about $7k per year...once again....private schools do not have to follow the law like public schools do, nor do they have any type of checks like standardized testing....

    Wing-nuts always want to compare the best private schools to the worst public schools...if private schools are so good then lets take the worst kids in public school put them in a private school and see if they do any better...
    Dan the average in Texas is $11,000 per student.

    Check it out.

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    TX underspends per inmate (missing out 5000 guards) but it's still twice the expense per student. The TX MIC really need to up it game, get them 5000 guards hired, non-unionized, of course.

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    TX underspends per inmate (missing out 5000 guards) but it's still twice the expense per student. The TX MIC really need to up it game, get them 5000 guards hired, non-unionized, of course.
    well, room and board naturally costs more.

    That $3 lunch my kid has at school every day adds up fast.

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    well, room and board naturally costs more.

    That $3 lunch my kid has at school every day adds up fast.
    I'm thinking of home schooling my kids. I'll have room for a few more kids. Shoot me over a pm and I will see if ur kid qualifies for my ins ution. Meals will run you a a buck a day if you choose to have ur kid eat in my kitchen. Hours are from 9-12.

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    My kids will go to private school and any method whereby I can extract my tax money from the public pool to supplement that decision is a priority.

    Public schools have always been complete trash. Not because of the teachers or the environment, but because of parents. Most parents, in case you havent noticed, are negligent morons. When 70% of the kids in public school come from parents who are almost completely uninvolved in their education, you have the American system.

    Those parents that do care save their money and send their kids to private schools (at least until middle school). It doesnt break my heart that most people cant afford it, tough breaks, life sucks, get a helmet. My child's development will not be stunted because of some altruistic, hands-across-America bull .

    My kid will excel, even at the expense of yours. Sorry.

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    All these studies comparing the dollar value of an American education system versus some European system fail to account for the very obvious demographic and cultural differences between "us" and "them".

    Moreover, since their heritage is older than 2.5 centuries, theyve logically concluded that not every kid is the next Isaac Newton. Some kids just make better mechanics than physicists. Hence, early vocational education for those who elect it.

    Not so in America! Everyone here is created equal, therefore we are ALL educated equally. What a complete waste of resources and time. Some people arent worth the effort, there is no problem with that mantra until the people who arent worth it outnumber those that are. Ergo, American students.

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    I'm thinking of home schooling my kids. I'll have room for a few more kids. Shoot me over a pm and I will see if ur kid qualifies for my ins ution. Meals will run you a a buck a day if you choose to have ur kid eat in my kitchen. Hours are from 9-12.
    Teaching kids that being gay is gross does nothing to prepare them for the SATs.

    Thanks, but I'll pass on having my kid taught by the skull grinder.

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    Most parents, in case you havent noticed, are negligent morons. When 70% of the kids in public school come from parents who are almost completely uninvolved in their education, you have the American system.
    These would be my sentiments.

    I would agree with the part where it's a main reason why private schools are better.......the parents care.

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    Teaching kids that being gay is gross does nothing to prepare them for the SATs.

    Thanks, but I'll pass on having my kid taught by the skull grinder.
    No problem but for the record there will be no sex education taught on my campus. I'll leave that for the kids parents/guardians to discuss.
    Last edited by jack sommerset; 01-03-2011 at 08:22 PM.

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    Here's one of the nuttiest Repugs assholes and how he talks to K-12 students, the other one is also King (New York)

    Steve King: I Often Raise 'Abortion Issue' To School Kids, Even At Kindergarten Level

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_803694.html

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    I have a question. I understand the cons utional aspect of vouchers (i.e. the problem it creates regarding separation of church and state), but I want to know what is wrong with them otherwise?

    This is an honest question.
    public education bestowed you a home, a citizenship etc... everything you have, your just naturally speaking good of the bridge that carried you over, really no surprise

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    No Dan. Ask for the "all funds" budget. These numbers are higher.


    There has to be some federal oversight of schools, just like there has to be some oversight of greedy banks, coal mines, and Wall Street.....you would have those costs whether we had private schools or public schools

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    To be fair, the winston school costs 15k a year, and services students that public schools also must service.
    Those special needs kids are exactly the kids which private schools would throw under the bus...there are special schools that handle some of these kids, but as you mentioned, the costs is often twice or more than it is in public schools and the need in most communities is so great that it would overwhelm all private schools...

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    And yet, private schools generally turn out more highly-educated students for less money. Could it be that these things you mention are actually detrimental to the performance of public schools?
    blah....right-wing talking point.....why are you comparing the best private schools to avg or below avg. public schools? There are many very poor charter schools out there too....

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    Make the public schools perform. Get rid of teachers who don't teach, get back to the basics of education and remove the social agendas. Return control back to the communities. That would make a big difference.
    Texas sets it own standards, community leaders and parents make important decisions that effect schools in their area, and low=performing schools are 'restructured' if they do not perform to standards set by Texas politicians...the result? among the worst in the nation....

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    WC is perfectly out of touch, with bubba-level simplistic ideas to a very complex problem with no practical chance of being implemented. WC never say an Ivory Tower he didn't view the world from.
    He is very apt at parroting wing-nut talking points, but clearly does not understand the complexity of the problem...to WC, problems associated with poverty, parent and family neglect and abuse, PTSD in kids, schizophrenia, disassociation syndrome...everything will disappear if we just privatize schools....what a simpleton.

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    Absolutely we have solved something. It allows those right on the edge like me to send my kids to private school. I can probably do it without, but it will be difficult. I also know many who arent on the edge, but they are close and an extra 2-3k could allow them to send their kids to private school. It is opening the way for more to have a choice about which school to send their kids to.

    Believe it or not, there are many poor kids whose parents DO care, but cannot provide for a better education.
    Those costs would not go away though....you would still needs schools with very high costs, because the kids need so many special services which would need to be paid for, so even if you got money for your kid, you would still have to pay for schools for kids that cannot get into private schools...

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    Those poor (or rich, or middle class) kids whose parents do not care about their education are not going to benefit either way. There is nothing I, or you can do about that.
    Who are you to hold moral authority over the lives of other people?

    ...are poor kids responsible for the economic and and (often) bad family and community situations they are born into? ....that is a very elitist at ude

    ....despite their often horrendous situations, many poor kids do very well in school, in fact, the great majority do OK, but those aren't the kids that make the right-wing headlines...

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    TX underspends per inmate (missing out 5000 guards) but it's still twice the expense per student. The TX MIC really need to up it game, get them 5000 guards hired, non-unionized, of course.
    ...some wing-nuts would rather put these kids in prisons than educate them and make sure they become productive members of a community...but the vast majority have never really put any time in studying the problem and believe that teachers, administrators, and school districts are out to indoctrinate their children...what morons...

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    CROFL ed up marriage all in the name of the babbeh
    CROFL soliciting guys photos for a "school project"


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    AT least I can call myself a man, you turned your and balls in when your wife ed another man and you did nothing about it
    you sound like vulvaface, which sounds like mavs>spurs

    CROFL it would explain your near genius posts

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    Hey genius, what does any of that have to do with another man's penis inside your wife?
    Nothing at all. Why are you suddenly so interested in what another man's penis is doing? Are you going to start asking for my facebook picture too?

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    No, I simply want to know what on earth possesses a man to stay with a cheating wife? SHE ING LET ANOTHER MAN HAVE HIS WAY WITH HER. Serious question? You're letting men everywhere down and it's so pathetic it really irks me.
    I haven't given any details about my current situation in nearly 3 months.

    You're letting a horribly ignorant assumption about a sports messageboard poster continue to irk you after 3 months?

    CROFL

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    first thing on this forum that's every bothered me in the slightest i might add. What gives?
    crofl

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