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  1. 01-10-2011 #501
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    Quote Originally Posted by redzero
    Okay, what I have learned so far is that Sarah Palin maintains a terrorist cell of mentally unstable Communist Nazi Anarchists tea bagger leftist potheads who are mentally unstable.

    Am i right so far?
    Changed since reports are now calling the guy a pothead.
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    Tv that is who.
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  4. 01-10-2011 #504
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    Right-wingers here using the old "it was just a rotten apple" defense, it is not the whole Repug/tea party/conservative delegitimizers/elmininationists barrel that is rotten.

    American Civilization is such a great example to the planet.
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    The shooter was a devotee of St Ronnie "Govt Is The Problem"

    Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords

    http://motherjones.com/print/94271
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  6. 01-10-2011 #506
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    Quote Originally Posted by boutons_deux
    The shooter was a devotee of St Ronnie "Govt Is The Problem"

    Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords

    http://motherjones.com/print/94271
    Well, pish-tosh, if they say it--it's gotta be true.
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  7. 01-10-2011 #507
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    Quote Originally Posted by PublicOption
    ing simple minded people

    nazi=right wing nut.


    commie=left wing nut.


    Obama can't be both......get a ing clue!
    Please.

    Hussein Obozo is a comprehensive failure.
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  8. 01-10-2011 #508
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    Quote Originally Posted by Article With Friend Posted Above
    Loughner would occasionally mention Giffords, according to Tierney: "It wasn't a day-in, day-out thing, but maybe once in a while, if Giffords did something that was ridiculous or passed some stupid law or did something stupid, he related that to people. But the thing I remember most is just that question. I don't remember him stalking her or anything." Tierney notes that Loughner did not display any specific political or ideological bent: "It wasn't like he was in a certain party or went to rallies...It's not like he'd go on political rants." But Loughner did, according to Tierney, believe that government is " ing us over." He never heard Loughner vent about about the perils of "currency," as Loughner did on one YouTube video he created.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Article Again
    As Loughner and Tierney grew closer, Tierney got used to spending the first ten minutes or so of every day together arguing with Loughner's "nihilist" view of the world. "By the time he was 19 or 20, he was really fascinated with semantics and how the world is really nothing—illusion," Tierney says. Once, Tierney recalls, Loughner told him, "I'm pretty sure I've come to the conclusion that words mean nothing." Loughner would also tell Tierney and his friends that life "means nothing," and they'd reply, "If it means nothing, what you're saying means nothing." Other times, Tierney says, Loughner acted like any teen: "We'd go to concerts, play music, get into trouble."
    Nihilists! me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
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    A really good article/interview, I suggest all read it. It does a lot to dispell some of the myths theories floating around.

    Apparently Loughner is not an anti-semite (he's half Jewish himself, and listed Mein Kampf as a favorite book simply to push buttons), he wasn't a pot-head (he had gone completely free of tobacco and pot in 2008), and wasn't of any particular ideology (he was a nihilist).

    Giffords, quite contrary to Wild Cobra's stupid hypothesizing (uh, I mean "open mindedness"), was clearly the target and Loughner had a long obsession with her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryce Tierney
    "He s things up to up, there's no rhyme or reason, he wants to watch the world burn. He probably wanted to take everyone out of their monotonous lives: 'Another Saturday, going to go get groceries'—to take people out of these norms that he thought society had trapped us in."
    That's a frightening post. I wouldn't say this guy was crazy, but he was definitely operating at another plane of consciousness - and it ed with his head.

    The article mentioned Loughner and Tierney attended a The Mars Volta concert together (without a doubt my favorite band). TMV is a prog-rock band, very psychedelic with cryptic lyrics that at times appear non-sensical by allude to an altered (not drugs per se, just altered) view of reality. His interest in the band probably stemmed from those lyrics.

    This is the makings of a groundbreaking psychlogical case study. An absolute tragedy about the 6 dead and 14 injured who were caught in the crossfire of his twisted mind.
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    Chump. Why play your little game with something that is common sense. Watch t.v. brah. Every single politician and former SS that has been interviewed this past weekend has said death threats are a constant reality.

    In our society, only a few types of people actually keep up with politics. Concerned citizen, intelligent person, crazy loon. Out of those, your cc and crazy loon will care enough to contact their politician. Out of those two, you know the crazy loon is burning the pencil lead and postage stamps.
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  12. 01-10-2011 #512
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuseppe
    Please.

    Hussein Obozo is a comprehensive failure.
    wow, did you think of that yourself?
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  13. 01-10-2011 #513
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    Quote Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
    Was it some random poster or Kos/a regular author on the site?
    Dont really know the history of the author but it was an article in the The Daily Kos.

    That was scrubbed.
    Two days before the Tucson incident.

    Not that that I'm saying this was connected.....


    And it was an article not a comment.
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    Oh, and I commend you Lngrr for being the only one to respond to that link I posted. I'm not using that article as a "gotcha. This is what caused it" kinda thing. It's just stupid. This and the Palin thing. Anyone that believes either one is the slightest bit responsible is pretty dumb IMHO. Theres simply crazy people in the world. The Unabomber graduated from Harvard. Did anyone blame universities for his stupidity?..... Politicians INCLUDING our President spew this rhetoric and vitriol day in and day out on tv and across the internets. Now it's the latest buzz word on tv and is making eveyone "come together". This is all a charade. Just people gaining votes. continuing to care about themselves(the elected officials) and no one else.
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    If we can pooh-pooh the Ft. Hood Massacre at the decree of Hussein Obozo we can pooh this thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
    Politicians INCLUDING our President spew this rhetoric and vitriol day in and day out on tv and across the internets. Now it's the latest buzz word on tv and is making eveyone "come together". This is all a charade. Just people gaining votes. continuing to care about themselves(the elected officials) and no one else.
    Testify, Viva, testify!
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    "INCLUDING our President spew this rhetoric and vitriol"

    YOU LIE!

    There is no equivalence from the center and libs that matches the hate/fear/lie mongering from the right.
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    this thread is getting closer and closer to protecting "B" girl, again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuseppe
    If we can pooh-pooh the Ft. Hood Massacre at the decree of Hussein Obozo we can pooh this thing.
    so you have no problem with mass killings.. I assume you are a pro lifer correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boutons_deux
    "INCLUDING our President spew this rhetoric and vitriol"

    YOU LIE!

    There is no equivalence from the center and libs that matches the hate/fear/lie mongering from the right.
    Well I'm on my phone so it's a bit bersome to post links and youtubes but the first one that comes to mind is frank Grayson. He was one idiot that played one to a T. As soon as I get to a PC I'll get you on task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clambake
    this thread is getting closer and closer to protecting "B" girl, again.
    Ha. It started as B girl, clammy. I learned me lesson
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    Wow, I still see the ignorant right wingers are trying to tell everyone the left is as bad as the right.... which side often talks of revoluton and the need to shed blood if necessary... secede from the union, take our country back from communists and radicals..by any means necessary...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
    Ha. It started as B girl, clammy. I learned me lesson
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    The killer's youtube ramblings.


    http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10


    Strangely, no videos about Obamacare, Tea Party, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuseppe
    If we can pooh-pooh the Ft. Hood Massacre at the decree of Hussein Obozo we can pooh this thing.
    Define pooh pooh.
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