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    Splitter will not catapult the Spurs to the championship. That's not because he sucks, as some here suggest, but because, even at his best, he's no game changer. Who in the league his size cannot handle him? , even Dwight Howard cannot catapult a team to the championship. He can get them closer, but let's be real here: The ONLY players on this team that make or break the Spurs are the big 3. Hill is good, Neal is good, Bonner contributes at times, and RJ and McDyess are solid, however without any of the big 3, they are ed. Tiago could sell hotdogs in the stands for all the difference he would make in the playoffs, up to speed or not.

    If Tyson Chandler cannot get the Mavs to the promised land, Tiago sure as won't get the Spurs there. I would take Chandler any day over Splitter.

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    Some folks would include Sean Elliott who is often heard saying so on Spurs broadcasts.
    I keep saying that Nazr got thrown in late in the fire late the 05 championship season and did well enough to get the team a ring. While the situation of why is different, someone pointed out that Rasho got hurt...the time in the season, late, shows that Pop can change a lineup late if he feels it will give his team the firepower to compete.
    Call him Splinter if you wish, I think later on what he'll be called is situational role-player and I don't have an issue with that.

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    Bynum wins.... fatality

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    Splitter guarding any big from LA = disaster. It has already been proven (see 28 Dec)
    You've determined in a 7:21 stint, in which he played roughly 5 minutes while the game was still up for grabs and only defended a guy who's at least 2 inches taller and 45 pounds heavier than him, that "Splitter guarding any big from LA = disaster"?

    By your logic, the Spurs are the best defensive team in the league, since they held the Lakers to 82 points, on 35% shooting. They're also head and shoulders better than the Lakers, since they beat them by 15.

    The reality is, we have no idea if Splitter can adequately guard Gasol or Odom, because we haven't seen him guard either yet (at least in the NBA). Bynum, he has no chance against, because of the vast disparity in strength. Theoretically, at least, Splitter should match-up well with Gasol.

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    If Splitter could guard Gasol or Bynum, he would have been much harder to acquire.

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    If Splitter could guard Gasol or Bynum, he would have been much harder to acquire.
    Why? We drafted him....

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    I don't think its as simply as give him a year.

    The argument that Oberto barely played his first year is a poor one because: We JUST won a championship with a prime Duncan. We still had Robert Horry, Nazr Mohammed and Rasho.

    Even with Manu, we had Steven Jackson and Steve Smith and Manu still got 20+ with him getting consistent minutes into the playoffs.

    Splitter getting close to no playing time is worrisome.

    If Splitter could guard Gasol or Bynum, he would have been much harder to acquire.
    Why? We drafted him as our first round pick. If he wants to play in the NBA he has to sign with the Spurs... IF he wants to play in the NBA, what leverage does he have? I'm not saying he CAN guard Gasol or Bynum but I dont agree with your logic.
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    Spiago Tinter iz da bestest eva!

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    If Splitter could guard Gasol or Bynum, he would have been much harder to acquire.

    Does not compute...

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    I don't think its as simply as give him a year.

    The argument that Oberto barely played his first year is a poor one because: We JUST won a championship with a prime Duncan. We still had Robert Horry, Nazr Mohammed and Rasho.

    Even with Manu, we had Steven Jackson and Steve Smith and Manu still got 20+ with him getting consistent minutes into the playoffs.

    Splitter getting close to know playing time is worrisome.



    Why? We drafted him as our first round pick. If he wants to play in the NBA he has to sign with the Spurs... IF he wants to play in the NBA, what leverage does he have? I'm not saying he CAN guard Gasol or Bynum but I dont agree with your logic.

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    Too many stupid people on this thread, and on the internet.

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    They are still doing it and won't ever stop doing it. He wasn't even that good of a player in Europe, yet the fans here think he was some kind of messiah there.

    He has now surpassed Rudy Fernandez to become the second most overrated Euroleague player in history by American fans.
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    7+ posts saying the same exact thing again Manu_Forever. You are getting to be a great troll. You are so opinionated it is ridiculous. You constantly call out people here on ST about a low BBIQ, yet you continue to show your own ignorance.

    Not one person can say you aren't consistent. So here is to you.

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    No player on the planet can stop Pau one to one in the low post.
    Bynum can. Seen it with my own eyes.

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    We expect to much from Splitter. we need his defence to help us for there are so many person can score. He is a rookie and is not strong enough and unathletic. He can't offer what we want. so we should wait one year and hope he can improve his strengh and muscle. I think he will be better next year.

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    Glyniadakis sucked in the D-League.

    Because he is Greek.

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    If Splitter could guard Gasol or Bynum, he would have been much harder to acquire.
    If Bowen could guard Kobe or Allen, he would have been much harder to acquire.

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    The Spurs starting center is Duncan, not Blair. Duncan just insists on keeping up the absurd lie that he is a "power forward" by having the Spurs call him that. He is the Spurs center, not Blair.

    Second, Blair is 6-7, not 6-6, and he is 270 with a huge wingspan, which is hardly undersized at all for the PF position. The NBA is full of 6-7 and 6-8 power forwards, most of which do not have the wingspan, nor weight of Blair.

    This whole thing about the Spurs starting PF/C positions being undersized is BS. Are they undersized against teams like Boston or the Lakers? Yes. But so is just about every single other NBA team.

    And Splitter could never guard heavy centers in the low post anyway. He never could in the Euroleague, so why do so many Spurs fans think he will now?

    He is much more effective against the Pau/Garnett/Dirk type of players on defense. So he should be used as a defensive match up against them. Especially if Bonner is missing shots. He won't be that effective against guys like Bynum or Howard on defense, just as he struggled on defense against heavy centers in Euroleague.

    He should be used to guard the Dirk/Gasol/Garnett types. So basically, at this point he is a defensive subs ute for Bonner, if Bonner isn't spreading the floor.

    With that being said, that is assuming that Popovich keeps playing McDyess. Splitter is better than McDyess is and he should be playing over him. But it's not going to make this huge difference, like the Spurs winning a le or not. But 80% of this forum is convinced that is the case.

    If the Spurs wanted a true center, that is a defensive center and that can guard the other big, heavy 7 foot centers then they should have signed Javtokas instead of Splitter. Javtokas excels at exactly that and Splitter does not and never has.

    It is more proof that the Spurs European scouts appear to be complete re s.




    Gary Neal anyone??

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    Pop is doing a big mistake by not giving playing time to Splitter. If Spurs wants to have a chance against a healthy Lakers team, they will need help from him. I don't even know how he could possibly think that Blair and Bonner are an answer against Lakers frontcourt. Splitter will also makes Spurs defense better which is a requirement to be a legit contender.


    Stay zen Tiago, stay zen...

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    Too many stupid people on this thread, and on the internet.
    Nah, there is only one, the one and only KBP 2.0.

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    Pop is doing a big mistake by not giving playing time to Splitter. If Spurs wants to have a chance against a healthy Lakers team, they will need help from him. I don't even know how he could possibly think that Blair and Bonner are an answer against Lakers frontcourt. Splitter will also makes Spurs defense better which is a requirement to be a legit contender.


    Stay zen Tiago, stay zen...
    This.

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    DeJuan Blair increased his TS% to .483 after todays game... good for 60th out of 74 Power Forwards in the league... couple that with his possible league worst defense.. its amazing that Tiago cant get a sniff

    Pop has lost his damn mind.

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    DeJuan Blair increased his TS% to .483 after todays game... good for 60th out of 74 Power Forwards in the league... couple that with his possible league worst defense.. its amazing that Tiago cant get a sniff

    Pop has lost his damn mind.
    I guess Pop feels like the best gambit is to secure the HCA and hope for the best. But is it really too risky to give Splitter even limited minutes? Hard to see how that would cause this team to nose dive. Some have mentioned chemistry. I would think our veterans would object to Splitter getting a better look-see.
    Hard to imagine we're so fragile that we can't handle Splitter getting some more time on the court.

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