There is no verifiable cause/effect between dollars spent on education and better educated students.
Man, see this orange is soooo much juicier than this apple.
You can even see how much oranger it is. That apple is all red and stuff, but the orange I ate was definitely NOT red.
Comparing cost structures at small, private schools, and large public schools is, at best, not really useful, and at worst, actively disleading.
Were you trying to be purposefully misleading, or do you not really have any real data on the difference and don't know any better?
There is no verifiable cause/effect between dollars spent on education and better educated students.
Then the rich shouldn't have been so against the Robin Hood plan.
Pretty broad generalization there Chump.
And you know this how?
Um, because they were against it.
That was fairly well do ented.
I'm sure not all of them -- I can reword it to say "the rich who were against the Robin Hood plan" if it helps.
It's pretty much common sense to resist a plan that takes your taxes generated at the local level (previously managed and dispersed at the local level) and sends them off to a distant "agency" to redistribute the funds as they see fit.
There are plenty of valid examples at the State and Federal level to justify this mis-trust.
Complain all you like, at least your state's legislature has the guts to actually put together a balanced budget.
Michigan's legislature cant even start a conversation about it.
But since it's spent on education, it doesn't actually matter how it is spent at all according to you. It has no effect whatsoever.
Also, I thought you were too smart to play that "rich envy" game like Boutons and Parker.
The rich didn't give a because their kids were usually in private school.
It was the lower middle class and middle class parents who saved and struggled to move from ty inner city schools (with ty kids born to ty parents) and paid the higher property costs/taxes to move their kids to the "good" school districts that really felt betrayed by Robin Hood.
It's cons utionally required, so I wouldn't exactly call it guts on behalf of our legislators.
Ok, let's say it's lower and middle class people only -- why, then?
You said it makes no difference what is spent, so there can be no betrayal when there is less spent.
I know CC is too dumb not to play the elitist "I-got-mine-so- the poor".
Damn Chump...did you take a stupid pill today?
The primary cause/effect element of student success is parental involvement.
Do you REALLY wan't to argue that dollars spent per student is more important?
You REALLY want to argue that the amount of money spent doesn't matter at all.
This is your argument.
If it doesn't matter at all, then no one should be upset about Robin Hood and just play up parental involvement.
And the rich have to pay property taxes too, so saying they didn't care at all is probably disingenuous.
Fact:
A 2000 sf house on the west side of SA in the SAISD sells for a lot less (and consequently pays lower taxes) than a 2000 sf house in Stone Oak and NEISD.
Those parents that scrimped and saved (and paid more taxes) to move to the "good" school districts felt betrayed when the taxes they paid to educate their kids were taken from them and sent somewhere else.
And yeah, I pay about $15,000 in school taxes every year and have no kids in school.
I thought that Texas was a model for conservatives on how to run a state budget? (As opposed to say, California.)
Amazing to see calls for a cut in prison jobs, especially in Texas.
its in the state cons ution that you can't have a budget plan in the red
Fact:
You said the amount of money spent on education doesn't matter.
So according to you, they shouldn't feel betrayed.
IIRC, the primary linked factor dealing with a child's success in school is wealth of the parents, not their involvement. (I read it in a study somewhere, I'll try to find it in a bit.)
"wealth of the parents"
exactly. Social upward mobility is greatly decreased, the US has become essentially stratified, born/raised poor, you stay poor. born/raised rich, you stay rich.
Then add in all the 3rd and 4th quintile middle class people who are trending downward.
America is so ed, compared to America's "promise", a myth?, and there's nothing anybody can do about it.
No doubt. My hope is that the economic realities force enough legislators to rethink the time and money being spent on locking up nonviolent drug offenders.Amazing to see calls for a cut in prison jobs, especially in Texas.
Amen to that.
I know that, but the way conservatives were railing on Massachusetts and California and praising Texas, you'd think that Texas wouldn't need budget cuts. After all, they have less regulations than those states, and less regulations = more business = more money, right?
I'm not too surprised that later in the article there was an alternate plan with no cuts to the prison jobs.Like I said, it's Texas.
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