Reply With QuoteScoreboard, Beijing. Spurs were "close" in every game in 2002, and that and a dollar will buy Pop a cup of coffee. Lakers slid back, and don't have the cash. Spurs passed them by, and DO have the cash.
Yeah, but it's just one game. Spurs completely dominated lakers in the second part of 3rd and fourth, and that's about it.Well, you did get beat in game 6 by the largest margin of defeat of any defending champ in NBA history.
When you talk about domination you should go no further than WCF 2 years ago.
I don't care how the series ended, but you don't call 4-2 domination, especially when it could have easilly been 3-3 or even 4-2 had a certain 3-pointer been 1/2 inch shorter.
Scoreboard, Beijing. Spurs were "close" in every game in 2002, and that and a dollar will buy Pop a cup of coffee. Lakers slid back, and don't have the cash. Spurs passed them by, and DO have the cash.
The main reason the Lakers lost in these playoffs was because they ran out of gas. Worn out after winning 3 les in a row (something San Antonio will probably not achieve) and being the #1 target in the league since the new millineum. Couple that with a hungry and well organized Spurs team, the Lakers were not able to advance past the 2nd round of the playoffs this year.
But quit acting like the Spurs and Lakers were on even footing to start off with. The Lakers entire season was a COMPLETELY different experience than anything the Spurs have ever faced. It has happened to every team that has won multiple les: eventually you wear out, and you're left running on fumes. It happened to the Bulls, it happened to the Pistons, it happened to the Celtics of the mid to late 80s, and it happened to the Lakers this past season.
Check back with me in a few years, and see if San Antonio is playing at full strength, IF they even make the finals 3 consecutive years in a row. Until then, don't EVEN compare 2003 to 2002.
NEXT.
Beijing - about that 3; yes he was wide open and yes it went in and out, but by my calculations Horry has made every game-winner he's had against the Spurs, so I don't feel too bad about the fact that he missed one... about time!
Gary Payton.
Guy is a light yrs improvement compared to Fisher.
Hey, at least we didn't cry like little girls.When you talk about domination you should go no further than WCF 2 years ago.Lakers love to dish it out but they sure can't take it.
Could easily have been 4-1 as well. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.I don't care how the series ended, but you don't call 4-2 domination, especially when it could have easilly been 3-3 or even 4-2 had a certain 3-pointer been 1/2 inch shorter.
Tim Duncan was crying in 2002 as well TwoHand, and don't forget 2001, when he just sat there after game two, and quit playing the rest of the series (most heartless display by a superstar that I've ever seen)
The Lakers were crying because they were trying to make history, winning 4 in a row. It just meant that much to them. Calling them out like little girls is classless on your part as a true basketball fan. As a Laker fan, I would have been pissed if they didn't act crushed after losing in the playoffs. Heck, growing up playing soccer, when my club team lost in the game before the national final 4, I cried my ass off, because it meant so much to me. Bring a better take, chump.
I've never seen Tim cry and neither have you. There were no tears in '01. The most heartless display by a superstar goes to Shaq by a landslide. Neglecting his weight year after year, delaying surgeries and shirking his responsibilities to his teammates and his fans is far worse than anything that happened in '01.Tim Duncan was crying in 2002 as well TwoHand, and don't forget 2001, when he just sat there after game two, and quit playing the rest of the series (most heartless display by a superstar that I've ever seen)
Adidas I'd like to see pictures of TD crying. I've seen pictures of him with a towel over his head. I've seen countless post from Laker's fans ragging on him about crying (none since Kobe and Fisher had their game six catharsis). I've seen pictures of Fisher bawling like a newborn baby. I've seen pictures of Kobe, tears rolling down the cheeks. Could you post these pictures of TD crying so I could see those too?
Jordan cried
Kobe cried
I cried
Maybe it's because the Lakers cared.
As for a heartless display TwoHand, I want people to fight hard in the face of adversity. The Lakers did that. I was never more proud of my team than this past playoffs, when they had every reason to fold in the series after game 2 against the Spurs, but they came back to give themselves a chance.
Why didn't the Spurs do the same in 2001? Why??? At least come out on the court and bust your ass!
Picnroll, I don't have any pictures, but seeing Tim Duncan sitting on the bench while playing against the Lakers, in Game 3 in the 3rd quarter while getting blown out, with his hands folded and staring at the floor, with Pop trying his best to console him, is absolutely the same thing as crying.
Oh, and as far as heartless displays, which team has established themselves as one of the greatest teams ever by winning 3 in a row, and which one has not?
End of discussion.
They did bust their ass, I'm not using the injury excuse but our 2nd leading scorer(Derek Anderson) was injured in that series. Whoever the 2nd leading scorer is on the Lakers, Kobe I would assume, so lets see Kobe injured and see how far you would get. Probably nowhere.Why didn't the Spurs do the same in 2001? Why??? At least come out on the court and bust your ass!
If Lakers add Gary and a decent PF (D Coleman?)
Coleman a decent PF? HA HAHAHAAHA thats a ing laugher.
That's two awful takes in a row, in just this thread Duff. Plus the one awful take in the Malone thread. Pathetic
Without a doubt, the Spurs quit playing after game 2 in 1999. Pop even called them out after the loss in game 3. So what does that tell you!?
As for Derrick Coleman, he had an excellent season for Philly last year Duff. Please do some research before you post on this board. Just because a player doesn't average superstar numbers, doesn't mean he didn't have a good season. Understand the dynamics of team sports before you swim in the deep end with the rest of us bigger kids, young one.
It tells me you're a dumbass who doesnt remember the Spurs swept the Lakers in 99. Especially, since we are talking about 2001 Playoffs.Without a doubt, the Spurs quit playing after game 2 in 1999. Pop even called them out after the loss in game 3. So what does that tell you!?
An excellent season in Philly who is in the East....enough said.As for Derrick Coleman, he had an excellent season for Philly last year Duff
Quote: "An excellent season in Philly who is in the East....enough said. "
A good season is a good season. You still haven't proven that Coleman had an awful season. Please show facts to substantiate your claim. And who cares if it's in the east, or the west? Are you saying that since Tracy McGrady plays in the east, he isn't a superstar???
As for 1999, the Lakers fought hard in every game, and lost to the better team. In 2001, the Spurs quit after game 2, because games 3 and 4 were over by the middle of the second quarter. Don't compare the two Duff.
I find it funny that the LAKERS always fight hard and stick it out to the end but the Spurs give up and the game is over by the 2nd quarter. Not only that that I can't compare the two, which means your bitter about the first sweep but I could care less about the second, since you guys sweeping us 2 years ago doesnt mean since we are hold the O'Brien trophy this year.:wacko
Then quit acting like winning this year if justification about how the Spurs were actually better than the Lakers for the previous 3 years (they weren't) I gave the Spurs props for winning it this year. It was well deserved, they were the best team. I even predicted them winning it before the playoffs even started.
Now they have to prove they have what it takes to repeat and 3peat.
Jordan cried tears of joy. Kobe cried like a baby from grief. There's a difference.Jordan cried
Kobe cried
I cried
Maybe it's because the Lakers cared.
They were the 3 time defending champs for chrissakes, they're not supposed to give up after being down 0-2. Not to mention they were headed back home. We folded badly in '01 for sure but we were not the 3 time defending champs and we were headed on the road. Big difference, moron.As for a heartless display TwoHand, I want people to fight hard in the face of adversity. The Lakers did that. I was never more proud of my team than this past playoffs, when they had every reason to fold in the series after game 2 against the Spurs, but they came back to give themselves a chance.
Crying is crying. Looking dejected is looking dejected. There's a difference, fool.Picnroll, I don't have any pictures, but seeing Tim Duncan sitting on the bench while playing against the Lakers, in Game 3 in the 3rd quarter while getting blown out, with his hands folded and staring at the floor, with Pop trying his best to console him, is absolutely the same thing as crying.
Which team has lost their le defense in the worst fashion in NBA history? On their home court no less. Largely because a irresponsible fat ass couldn't live up to his responsiblities.Oh, and as far as heartless displays, which team has established themselves as one of the greatest teams ever by winning 3 in a row, and which one has not?
That's heartless.
TwoHand, I seriously don't want to chat with you anymore. Thank you.
I've already proven my point, and destroyed your argument at the same time. Please do me a favor, and don't respond to any of my posts anymore. And I will do my best not to respond to any of yours. I'm asking you very nicely to respect my wishes, as a fellow poster.
adidas, all illusions of grandeur aside with respect to your thinking you've "destroyed my argument", I can agree to discontinue discussing this subject if you wish.
If some of the points I've brought up touched a nerve, I can understand but just remember we were discussing a sensitive subject. I can also distinctly remember things starting to get a little nasty when you told me to:You know how that old cliche goes; If you can't stand the heat....Bring a better take, chump.
I think we're both adult enough to continue replying to each other's posts in the future if we agree to drop this one discussion. I don't see the need for some pact whereby we need to avoid one another.
Deal?
I can stand the heat without a problem. The problem here is that you have no idea what your talking about.
2 instances in my life with the subject of crying
1) My freshman year in college, we were the defending national champions, and the current #1 team in the country. We were considered a lock to win it again, after we landed probably the top recruiting class in the country. Including myself, another one of the freshmen on my team won National Player of the Year, after setting a school record for goals in the season. In the Regional Championship game, the game before the Final 4, we lost to a team in a game that we completely dominated. 1-0. A senior on my team, team captain and 2nd Team All American, cried his ass off after the game. So did our freshmen goalkeeper, who made an awful mistake in the game that allowed the opponent to score on us.
2) Myself, playing club soccer in high school. We got to the game before the National Final 4 for our age group (Under 16). In this game, playing with a sore back and bad ankle, I played one of the worst games of my life. Earlier in the year, my father passed away, so the team dedicated our representation in the Southern Regional Tournament to him. I made it my personal goal to win the National Championship for him, and we lost. Needless to say, I cried my ass off after we lost 2-1. One of the most painful moments in my life.
I can't respect your stance on this issue, because you have no idea what you're talking about, TwoHand. When I see a professional athlete at the highest level cry after his team loses an important game, I respect it. It means to me that he really cared that much. For you to call people (Kobe and Fisher) out like that tells me that I had no business crying after my team lost a tournament that I had personally dedicated to my Dad. CHUMPS like yourself, who just watch sports, but can't play them for sh!t, offer your simplistic views, which honestly are just pathetic.
Provide examples in your life were you played a sport at a very high level, and your team lost and didn't cry. Since you're an expert on sports, I'd love to hear your response.
Don't come into the kitchen, if you have no idea what you're talking about to begin with.
That is why I completely destroyed your weak argument in this thread. And man, that was fun!
NEXT!
Yeah, I think it's embarrassing to make fun of fisher and kobe for crying.
I really like those two as players and, heck, I even felt for them when they took the loss that hard.
Laker fans feeling their oats with the latest FA news....
Quote: "Yeah, I think it's embarrassing to make fun of fisher and kobe for crying.
I really like those two as players and, heck, I even felt for them when they took the loss that hard. "
That's because TwoHand is a classless TOOL, Carnac, who probably has never played a sport in his life. (Rec league, and pick up basketball doesn't count)
Absolutely embarassing...
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