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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...pf/league/west

    Well look at this by looking at the PFs in West that Splitter guy has a PER in Hollinger's system about the same as Bonner and DeMarcus Cousins and not far behind Blair and guy has a TS% of 0.545 better than a number of players above him including that guy named Scola.

    Yeh give up on the guy = idiocy - this guy has serious potential to get better based on what he already demonstrated playing against some pretty stout international compe ion and needs only to adjust to the NBA and get some more playing time. In the interim he takes charges & is not afraid to at least man up to the bigs etc. His PER is actually higher than that of Dice's - stats of course do not tell the whole story but I believe Pop and is staff have a plan for Splitter otherwise he would not be with the Spurs and I trust in that.
    Another indicator how worthless PER is. Scola is 10 times the player Splitter is. And Cousins is much better than Splitter.

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    ^^
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    he isn't playing against euro-teenagers any more
    He is outclassed in the NBA. he should go back to Europe where he has a chance to do something meaningful against the slower and shorter players that he was used to playing against.

    He was overhyped on this board.

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    i think his got more pt with the spurs in his first year then what mahinmi received in his 3 years here...

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    Wow, people are gonna be real upset when they see Tiago play.
    In my opinion Tiago will average 11/7 in his rookie season. Expecting anything more would be setting yourself up for dissapointment. Griffin will get much more PT than Splitter and I expect about 16/8 from griffin in his rookie season. Again, hopefully Griffin is over his knee injury cause he seems like a good kid.

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    If you can't conquer third string, you don't deserve more playing time.
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    That's easy for a Cav fan to say, but this is the Spurs. Players we cut would start for the Cavs let alone third string.

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    He gets blocked a lot but it's very possible he will adjust his game. If Blair can adjust his game down low to be effective, and he's only 6'5", then I don't see why Splitter can't. He's never going to have the compe ive fire of Scola, but he can easily still be a contributor in the NBA. Silly to give up on him now.

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    Is that why guys who play and are stars over there cant cut it in the NBA for the most part. It is watered down. Not one Euro team could beat a top NCAA team in a best of 7.

    Splitter is 26yrs old. So I guess you think his up side is high when this is where most players start to level peak.

    He is awful.......cant rebound, no post moves, no jumper. Best we can hope for is a 18mpg back up. Ian has more upside.
    Really.

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    I think the Splitter haters don't realize what's going on. Splitter might be setting a pick or the play is designed for him to go to a certain area. To "these people" it might seem like he's not doing much or doesn't know where to go or what to do. All this proves is the lack of knowledge of some of these people(Splitter haters). They know when to clap and cheer(when the Spurs make a basket), and when to boo(when the refs call a foul on the Spurs).... but that's all they know!!

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    , ya I was definatly off on both but I am positive i am not the only one. If Tiago was getting minutes i would have no doubts he would get those numbers. Everybody knew Griffin was good but I do not think anyone expected these type of numbers from him. Thanks for posting that

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    Hes not being played enough.. hes awesome!

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    he does suck so far. but lets wait for 2 more years. he might be one of the guys who continue the spurs legacy when Timmy retires.

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    He needs to start juicing...

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    Rookie (calm down people) Season

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    this has actually been the perfect scenario for splitter this season cause the team does not need to depend on his play to win games. Not worried at all about his play cause he will catch up with the speed of the game and eventually fit right in. Guess he really is the only thing to about on this team so far for those who simply must find something to complain about.
    +1

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    this is a championship roster, as for the last couple of years pop never really brought in anyone if he needed to cause he had no time to developed such players when we are in win mode for the last couple of seasons

    he wanted vets or players who can come in straight away to contribute, thankfully only a handful of players lived up to expectations contributing straight away, as for splitter? not much pop can do when u can only play 2 bigs at a time and distribute the mins out...splitter will have to learn the system in practice and utilize the given time opportunity available....

    there are players ahead of the pecking order so his time = scrub minutes = still the clowns dont pass him the ball when down low in position

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    I think the Splitter haters don't realize what's going on. Splitter might be setting a pick or the play is designed for him to go to a certain area. To "these people" it might seem like he's not doing much or doesn't know where to go or what to do. All this proves is the lack of knowledge of some of these people(Splitter haters). They know when to clap and cheer(when the Spurs make a basket), and when to boo(when the refs call a foul on the Spurs).... but that's all they know!!
    Maybe you're showing your ignorance in thinking setting a pick and knowing where to go on offensive is NBA quality.

    Plenty of kids in middle school know how to set picks and get to a spot on offense.

    Bottom line is we all (ok most of us) expected more PRODUCTION out of Tiago and he has yet to come through. Not saying he won't, it just hasn't happened yet.

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    , ya I was definatly off on both but I am positive i am not the only one. If Tiago was getting minutes i would have no doubts he would get those numbers. Everybody knew Griffin was good but I do not think anyone expected these type of numbers from him. Thanks for posting that
    It's all good, I screwed up as much on RJ.

    I did get it right with Splitter though. I said he would need at least a season to get acclimated with the NBA, and looks spot on so far. A lot of people drank the koolaid when Pop said Tiago was ready to play. He has a long ways to go.

    I fully expect the usual apologists to go to "good positional defender" before we actually see him produce at a decent rate.

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    Well he has improved at least.

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    I think the Splitter haters don't realize what's going on. Splitter might be setting a pick or the play is designed for him to go to a certain area. To "these people" it might seem like he's not doing much or doesn't know where to go or what to do. All this proves is the lack of knowledge of some of these people(Splitter haters). They know when to clap and cheer(when the Spurs make a basket), and when to boo(when the refs call a foul on the Spurs).... but that's all they know!!
    You can train a monkey to set a pick. Who the hates Splitter? Apparently some of us are wearing Spurs goggles.... he's wearing a Spurs uniform, therefore, he must be talented. Unless a fairy grants Splitter a new pair of hands and a set of wings, he's going to be a below average NBA center. You can't teach athleticism. Splitter may need time to adjust to the Spurs system, but his overall game isn't really going to improve other than his on the court knowledge.

    Splitter

    • Can't shoot; has no lift on his funky looking hook shot
    • Has no low post game and can't create his own shot
    • can't rebound with his small hands
    • doesn't have the ability to block shots

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    Too many fans drank the Kool-aid, believing that when the Spurs traded Scola that they had drafted someone just as good and NBA ready as Scola was. Splitter was never as good as Scola and he surely was not nearly as ready to step in and contribute at the same level, despite Splitter staying in Europe 2 more years after the Spurs drafted him. Will he some day be as good as Scola- who can say for sure, but it is doubtful he will contribute much before the championship window is closed.

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    Too many fans drank the Kool-aid, believing that when the Spurs traded Scola that they had drafted someone just as good and NBA ready as Scola was. Splitter was never as good as Scola and he surely was not nearly as ready to step in and contribute at the same level, despite Splitter staying in Europe 2 more years after the Spurs drafted him. Will he some day be as good as Scola- who can say for sure, but it is doubtful he will contribute much before the championship window is closed.
    Actually, they felt confident they had an up and coming superstar in Mahimni.

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    I have already posted his rookie numbers and as you can see, his rookie season is about the same in ppg and rpg if you double up splitters minutes to equal scola's mpg thats season.
    This may be one of the craziest statistical manipulations I have ever seen used on ST. I am sure I can find lots of guys who look good if I double everything!

    There is a reason Scola as a rookie played twice as many MPG as Splitter has, and in more games on top of that. Scola even started half the games his rookie year, and put up his numbers against NBA starters.

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    ^^^ Exactly.

    Splitter has the tools to be very good. He's physically built much better than Scola will ever be. But it's on him to have the smarts to be as good as Scola has been.

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    Some people don't see the positives of good positional defense and the value of a pass that leads to the pass that gets the assist. I think he posts pretty well and the last few games, I've seen the perimeter players actually pass him the ball, and that's a positive. Of course he should be making more shots and grabbing rebounds and while I saw a 10 & 7 year possible, provided he got the playing time, I'm thinking that if he gives us the following, all of us Spurs fans will be happy.
    I'm talking about the kind of effect that DeSagna Diop had during OT of Game 7 2006 against the Spurs and Tim. He basically pestered the whole team into a mess of bad shots and outfought Silver and Black to most rebounds. If we get that from Tiago, then we should all be fairly happy...I think. I can't speak for all of you, but as for me...I'd be cool with that.

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