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I like Roberts quite a bit. I listened to what he said in the hearings today, and was ratehr impressed.
Capital Punishment:
That seems to support Capital Punishment...and, I don't think you can shoehorn killing an unborn child into that passage. Nope.
And, I can't find any mention of reincarnation in the Bible...
I like Roberts quite a bit. I listened to what he said in the hearings today, and was ratehr impressed.
Supreme Court Chief Justice nominee Judge John Roberts listens to a question from Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) during the second day of his confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington September 13, 2005. Roberts was pressed by senators for his views on the strength of established legal precedent with regard to the controversial issue of abortion rights and the landmark Roe vs. Wade abortion case
since when is drudge credible anyways?
So Jesus was down with vengeance killing? Doesn't sound like the Christ I know. Then again, I don't go to a church with a big ass billboard out front.
Since when is he not? One legitimate retraction in all the years he's been doing this? , the New York Times has 10 times that many on a good Sunday.
After The New York Times was found to have published make believe , anything is credible.
No, Jesus was "down" with respecting authority and abiding by the laws of the government.
what was the last drudge "scoop" to actually be true.
jesus was about civil disobedience like gandhi, you ing moron
I thought we were talking credibility not scoops.
Well, that's the way to engage in a civil debate.
So, explain Romans 13...then, tell me what was meant by Jesus saying, "give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." How about the notion that Jesus did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it? (somewhere in Matthew).
jesus respected authority and abided by the law so much he was crucified for it. maybe you should try reading more books, you wouldn't be so dumb.
He accepted the authority of those who crucified him...to the point of forgiving them. He stopped his disciples from fighting for his freedom in the Garden of Gethsemene and even healed the ear of one of his captors.
What's your point?
The point was that while he accepted the penalty for his "crimes", he thought it was wrong.
Yes, Christ's capital punishment served a great purpose, but that doesn't mean we gotta keep on doing it.
:: WARNING :: Thread in danger of being highjacked.
And some would say support of the death penalty and war doesn't make you a follower of Christ...what makes you right and them wrong?
Name one that didn't?Really? Name one.
Overpopulation is a relative thing....the first thing it attacks is the culture, then it attacks the environement, it creates multiple class societies...
Any cause you want to name for the fall of a civilization the root cause will be over-population in most cases, whether the technical cause be economic or environmental...
War for instance...how often do you see one man declare war? It takes an army to declare war.
The root cause of most wars is a lack of natural resources...why do nations with enough people to field a major military lack resources?
You name it...the Mayans...the Mesopotamians...
The Roman Empire...and the Roman Empire is a tricky one...The Roman Empire itself didn't suffer from over-population per se...but the Barbarians did...
It's a real simple formula...life isn't near as precious when it is common.
Over-population produces corrupt cultures...Tell that to the Subsaharan Africans being systemically starved by corrupt totalitarian regimes that re agricultrual advancement and hijack international aid. Tell that to the North Koreans...
Tell you what...go a week without eating and tell me if don't feel just a little bit more desperate than you normally do.
Ironically...communism nearly always takes root in poverty stricken countries.Give? No, allow them to work and be productive without fear of having the fruits of their labor taken by communist or totalitarian regimes.
Ok so...aborting a partially formed fetus is murder but capital punishment and war aren't?#6; "You shall not murder."
Back Asswards.
You are picking and choosing the definition as it suits you...technically speaking...and en y that cannot survive outside of the body of another is not alive at all...
Sorry, I'm not a theologian. Why don't you find me the passage where it says He will. Me, absent any clear direction, I'm going to err on the side of life.
Well it says Jesus will return....would that not be re-incarnation? So obviously he can do it, now can't he? He seems to have a knack for the people that he wants to be born being born....
Did you see where Biden slapped him in the ass and said "you like long dong silver??"
Ahh, but it never specifies that he will be back in human form, thus your reincarnation statement hasnt been proven. BTW I dont really have a side in this debate, ill just choose things that i think are wrong in each arguement and point it out. (I hate those kind of people like me)
Well maybe the aborted fetuses will come back as something other than human as well...so my point still holds true. And I am not claiming to know how it works BTW...Just a thought.
[QUOTE]I think yonivore correctly pointed out that there is a big difference between supporting murder (10 commandment no-no) and supporting Capital punishment. Scripture says; Put your sword back in its place "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword". You reap what you sow, if you don't want to be executed don't execute.
You think that people who were warned and able to flee Katrina and ended up perishing because of their lack of action deserved to die but you don't think Capital punishment is warranted for someone who murdered ?
What's the rationale behind that Whottt?
Whottt's philosphy
Inaction = deserved to die.
Murder = doesn't deserve to die.
No, Jesus was resurrected as the same embodiment that was crucified. Resurrection and Reincarnation are not similar. Reincarnation is the rebirth of a soul in a new human body, resurrection is the same body brought back to life.Well it says Jesus will return....would that not be re-incarnation? So obviously he can do it, now can't he? He seems to have a knack for the people that he wants to be born being born...
Originally posted by IcemanCometh: jesus was about civil disobedience like gandhi, you ing moron
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No, he knew it was his destiny...the greatest RIGHT that ever occurred. "For God so love the world..."
Back to whether Roberts confirmation indicates that Bush is strong or weak:
Here's a different view.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...conservatives/
Roberts's testimony alarms conservatives
Some contend he could be moderate
By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | September 15, 2005
WASHINGTON -- Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts Jr.'s testimony about the existence of a right to privacy, the importance of respecting precedent, and the need for the Cons ution to adapt to changing conditions has alarmed some rank-and-file conservatives, who are filling up Internet message boards with predictions that Roberts may turn out to be a moderate justice.
Many say they believe that Roberts's answers have shown him to be to the left of Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, whom President Bush promised to use as models in selecting new justices. Some compare Roberts to David Souter and Anthony Kennedy -- Republican appointees who proved to be moderates who supported abortion rights.
One writer on the conservative FreeRepublic.org site wrote that yesterday's questioning by Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., Democrat of Delaware, had ''exposed Roberts" as a moderate.
''Biden gave Roberts every opportunity to even minimally associate himself with Scalia and Thomas, and he ran away from them like he was running from a burning building -- not a good sign," the post said.
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I prefer a moderate justice.
Jesus Christ people!!! Isn't this thread supposed to be about Biden and Roberts??!!
Why they do some of you have to bring religion into every Goddamn thing!!
Stay on topic!
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