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  1. #51
    Walton Buys Off Me
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    McCarty looks like one of those idiots from "Getto Brawls 5- Revenge of the Chicken"

  2. #52
    MannyIsGod
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    big diffrence in those 2 that doesn't show up in the stats.

    02' playoffs, smitty missing
    03' playoffs, jax HUGE

  3. #53
    Solid D
    Guest
    How about Ghost Writer at "Small" Forward?


  4. #54
    Walton Buys Off Me
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    Is that Austin?

  5. #55
    Jimcs50
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    What's up Walton?

  6. #56
    Walton Buys Off Me
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    How you doin' Jim?

    On a footnote Kori, there was another Jackson, back in '99, that was instrumental in us winning a le. Last I heard, he was gathering up other 'Subway' workers in hopes of forming a boy band.

    One playoffs does not make you a star. Common sense dictates that Ginobili is our 2 guard of the future.

  7. #57
    timvp
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    I don't understand how people can bag on Stephen Jackson. How many big shots did he hit during the playoff run? On top of that, he played good defense and rebounded the ball well.

    He's also 6'8 which is great size for a guard. He plays the two-man game with Duncan better than anybody on the team. He's a compe or and hates losing.

    I can name off many reasons why he's a must keep, but here's one thing about him that isn't mentioned much:

    He blasts Duncan's ass when Duncan is playing soft. Many times during the playoffs, you could see Jackson walk up and rip into Duncan. He's the only player or coach with the balls to call out Duncan and tell him he's playing scared.

    You want to give that away for a 38 year old man who has maybe 1 good year left?


    Ri--i-ii-iiii-ii-iight.




    P.S.

    Jaren Jackson is coaching at Georgetown.

  8. #58
    Marcus Bryant
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    The only similiarity between Jax and JJ is the last name.

  9. #59
    mattyc2422
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    Marcus Bryant
    There's a reason Rose has that contract. He earned it. He's making less than the average salary in the league right now.
    Completely agree. Malik is waaaaay more important to SA than many people and fans across the league give him credit for.

    As for Jackson, I also believe he should be kept. Has a good frame, a clutch shooter, an agressive at ude and most importantly he has more potential to improve further.

    Some of the signs we saw from Malik and Jack this past season are good enough for me to believe they are integral parts of our lineup.

  10. #60
    travis2
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    So you dump a Rose in his prime for 35 year old Robert Horry? 24 year old Jax for 37 year old Reggie Miller?

    No thanks.
    But you're willing to dump a 21-year-old Parker ready to conquer the world for a 30-year-old Kidd who has peaked already and frankly is on the way down?

  11. #61
    Marcus Bryant
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    Kidd's a great player with a number of seasons left. You guys act like he's old he's not. 30 years old. 3 years older than Duncan. How long is Duncan supposed to wait on Parker to reach an elite status? We're not talking about just being a quality point we are talking about him as a second star.

  12. #62
    travis2
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    A great star who is going to see the taillights of the likes of Nash, Marbury, Payton (if he makes good on his threat)...4 times per year each.

    Great. A "star" we have to cover for on defense who shoots 38% from the field.

  13. #63
    Marcus Bryant
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    Not when he has a TD patrolling the lane behind him. But you know what? I hope the Spurs pass on Kidd for whoever not named JO'Neal or Brand. Then you can enjoy seeing Duncan struggle to carry absolute crap during his prime while other Western contenders pass the Spurs by.

  14. #64
    travis2
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    Marcus, he shot 38% with open looks. He's not going to run the set offense any better than TP, either. Are we suddenly going to switch to a completely run-and-gun set? I don't think so!

    If we end up with Kidd, I will grit my teeth and keep my peace...but ready to jump all over you when he doesn't provide the increase in performance befitting the contract he is demanding.

  15. #65
    Marcus Bryant
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    He had maybe 5 open looks in that entire series. I also remember him hitting a number of shots at inopportune times. Again, give him a Tim Duncan to play with.

  16. #66
    travis2
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    Marcus, he didn't do any better during the regular season.

    And when I play the "shooting at inopportune times" card, you aren't so keen on accepting it...

  17. #67
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    Look, he's a great player who dragged that Nets team to the NBA Finals twice. Talk about stats to your heart's content. A number of players have stats that are close to TD would that make them worth passing on TD?

    Beyond that this is the Spurs best (and perhaps only) opportunity to give Duncan a great player to play when he is on top of his game. Some of you act like the Spurs will always have an opportunity to acquire a great player. That's not the case.

  18. #68
    travis2
    Guest
    Different systems. Different players. You put Kidd here and he turns into Tony Parker with a lower shooting percentage.

  19. #69
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    Um no.

    But again, I suppose the Spurs should be in the habit of passing on great players who want to come to SA. Especially now when Duncan's on top of his game.

  20. #70
    travis2
    Guest
    Look, you still haven't answered my question. All I've gotten from you is "great player, ignore the stats". That tells me nothing.

    What does he bring to the team that we don't already have?

  21. #71
    travis2
    Guest
    You're the economist, Matt. What value do we get for the outlay??? Is it justified? Granted, he's a "great player"...but do we need him? Do we throw max money at someone we don't need just to buy a name?

  22. #72
    TwoHandJam
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    big diffrence in those 2 that doesn't show up in the stats.

    02' playoffs, smitty missing
    03' playoffs, jax HUGE
    I don't understand how people can bag on Stephen Jackson. How many big shots did he hit during the playoff run? On top of that, he played good defense and rebounded the ball well.
    Some of you guys are missing the point about Jackson. I am critisizing him.... constructively. Why does it all of a sudden become like SR.com in here with the rabid homers anytime someone points out faults with our players?

    Jackson did not have a stellar playoffs. Yes he hit some big shots but that doesn't mean you can erase or neglect the numerous problems he did have.

    How many times did Pop pull him early? His first possession turnovers were so predictable you could set your watch by them. He averaged 2.83 to/game throughout the playoffs which is double that of Manu in less minutes. He missed untold defensive rotations. Finley abused him in the Dallas series. He was MIA for the entire Lakers series. He commited 26 turnovers in the NJ series alone. Pop himself said that it's feast or famine with Jackson; that's barely acceptable for a bench player much less a starter on a championship team. Inconsistency is largely what seperates starters from bench players.

    Jackson won some games for us in playoffs but make no mistake that his poor play lost some games for us as well. Jackson worked for us last year I believe largely because we needed guys who can hit clutch shots, but Jackson also benefited from 2 seven foot hall of famers cleaning up his numerous defensive mistakes. We may not have that kind of presence next year and Jackson must improve or his weaknesses could really start to hurt us.

    As I said before, I love Jackson. I think he's got tremendous potential and he already has two things that you can't teach: heart and no fear. However, I feel he will be benched in favor of Manu next year if he doesn't show solid improvement in his problem areas. I do hope we keep him and I do hope he succeeds.

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