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  1. #76
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    So one of your main reasons the Spurs are better than Dallas is
    because the Mavs lost a 3rd option and the Spurs got better with.....
    Neal and Splitter??? Or who did the Spurs add that made them better?
    A fully healthy compliment of #2 options (TP/Manu). A very productive bench player (Neal) and more depth (Anderson).

    My main reason the Spurs are better is because they beat the Mavs last year in the playoffs and the Mavs are at best a wash over themselves last year with Caron being gone.

  2. #77
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    That solves everything
    Who said it did? Point is, It's not just Blair out there. We have a taller guy who will see the bulk of the minutes. Whether that works out or not is another story.

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    Again, I will take Tim vs. Dirk (in theory) in any given game production wise, compared to what the Mavs have to throw at TP/Manu.
    Maybe, but the Spurs don't have anyone who can guard Dirk. Heck they can't even guard David West. Also, Chandler will make Duncan quiet offensively.

    I do agree TP/Manu have an edge, but the Mavs may get lucky and see Marion and Brewer defend Manu well and hope the Roddy and Terry score consistently.

    I think the matchup is alot closer than you give credit for. Even with an injured Caron, the Mavs are better overall than last year's team.

  4. #79
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    You realize the Spurs will be playing McDyess a lot in the playoffs?
    well.... if he's supposed to fulfill your needs for interior defense, then good luck

    I mean..... even from a homers perspective, it's not hard to see that the Spurs seriously lack interior D. That's not a good formula for playoff success. The Mavs don't have a great formula for playoff success either though with no true 2nd option (or one what would play). So.... I'm not just bashing the spurs here, I think both teams lack vital playoff components and probably won't make it to the finals

  5. #80
    lol dok lol bump
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    SA is not better than Dallas or LA( as if that's worth a debate after today)

  6. #81
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    I don't think they are better without Caron. I think the strides they made on one end (defensive, even though Caron was their best perimeter defender) was negated by their losses on the other (offensive).

    Mavs struggled to score vs the Spurs last year. It's worse now.

    Spurs have never had anyone that can guard Dirk. No one does. But again, you guys are really quick to throw Duncan under a bus (given, he has really been a non factor offensively because he hasn't had to and he has struggled mightly at times), and he is a HoF who still has something left on both ends IMO.

    The match up is close. But again, the Mavs IMO are at best a wash over last year with Caron out and their lack of talent/scoring hurt them vs the Spurs last year. Spurs, even though they didn't add any world beaters, are better than last year and they haven't lost any key pieces.

  7. #82
    lol dok lol bump
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    A fully healthy compliment of #2 options (TP/Manu). A very productive bench player (Neal) and more depth (Anderson).

    My main reason the Spurs are better is because they beat the Mavs last year in the playoffs and the Mavs are at best a wash over themselves last year with Caron being gone.
    Hmmmmm. So a chucker and a rookie who has been injured and irrelevent all season are your big additions??? And Dallas is a wash with the additions of Chandler, Roddy Beboiuos, Brewer, and Peja??? Interesting to say the least

  8. #83
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    well.... if he's supposed to fulfill your needs for interior defense, then good luck

    I mean..... even from a homers perspective, it's not hard to see that the Spurs seriously lack interior D. That's not a good formula for playoff success. The Mavs don't have a great formula for playoff success either though with no true 2nd option (or one what would play). So.... I'm not just bashing the spurs here, I think both teams lack vital playoff components and probably won't make it to the finals
    I agree. LA is the favorite. I just think the Spurs are better than the Mavs and have a better chance overall. Even though LA is clearly the favorite.

  9. #84
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    Hmmmmm. So a chucker and a rookie who has been injured and irrelevent all season are your big additions??? And Dallas is a wash with the additions of Chandler, Roddy Beboiuos, Brewer, and Peja??? Interesting to say the least
    A chucker. Irrelevant all season.

    Roddy wasn't on the team last year? He is playing tons of minutes right now? The addition of Chandler when you lose Caron is a huge upgrade? Brewer/Peja make up for that?

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    A chucker. Irrelevant all season.

    Roddy wasn't on the team last year? He is playing tons of minutes right now? The addition of Chandler when you lose Caron is a huge upgrade? Brewer/Peja make up for that?
    Roddy still isn't playing enough, but what hes playing now is still a massive upgrade over last year when he got DNP-CDed almost every game.

  11. #86
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    Roddy still isn't playing enough, but what hes playing now is still a massive upgrade over last year when he got DNP-CDed almost every game.
    Sure, but it's no where near enough to make a difference. Also, you still don't know what you get from him. He has been up and down.

  12. #87
    lol dok lol bump
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    A chucker. Irrelevant all season.

    Roddy wasn't on the team last year? He is playing tons of minutes right now? The addition of Chandler when you lose Caron is a huge upgrade? Brewer/Peja make up for that?
    Now you're getting it. Listen, I know as a Spurs fan the hard reality that set in today hurt, but you are vastly overrating this team if you think Dallas and LA aren't the two best teams out West. Dallas won't beat em but they have the best chance and are better than SA, considering SA lives and dies by the three and the defense is a joke. That record has really gone to Spurs fans head

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    lol dok lol bump
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    And as far as Tim Duncan goes, I don't know what Spurs fans are really expecting once the playoffs start but unless it's Prime Duncan it won't be nearly enough to make up for the lack of true size inside

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    I really hope the Spurs and Mavs meet again...this site won't be the same w/o the annual pissing match

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    Me too, because that likely means it's a Mavs/Spurs WCF and I'll take it

    That would be amazing to see.

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    Dropping fuckin' loads! Nick Manning's Avatar
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    If the Mavs and Spurs are playing in the WCF then 29 teams will be very happy

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    This would be terrible, but I can see it happening. ZBo going nuts in the first round, then Memphis just happy to be there against the Lakeshow in the second round... FML

  18. #93
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    Findog, Mono. Hi.

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    that's what we've all been saying about the spurs. neither team is doing
    Neither is your Hornets.

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    Neither is your Hornets.
    no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. #96
    Dropping fuckin' loads! Nick Manning's Avatar
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    gnsf just can't be saved from themselves

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    Neither is your Hornets.

  23. #98
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    SA is not better than Dallas or LA( as if that's worth a debate after today)
    Dallas just got beat at HOME! Does that prove a thing for them being up 17 and losing? What did that prove today? LA is still the team to beat no doubt, but Dallas has not proven to be better than either of them.

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    Tyson Chandler is definitely needed. His athleticism can do a lot of things for our team.

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    NT? more like SO i said
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    on a side note, i think its hilarious that we barely lose 1 game and it's Golden State all over again.

    The Mavs have won 18 of their last 20 and both of their losses were by 1 point on buzzer beaters. One of the games was a fluky shot, and the other was by a role player all of a sudden turning into MJ. If both those shots are missed, the Mavs are on a 20 game win streak

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