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    There's defending yourself and there's bouncing a kid off pavement like a basketball. Don't get me wrong, I have zero sympathy for the little bullying er. Serves him right. However if you're capable of tossing someone around like that I have to believe that there's a more appropriate level of defense he could of resorted to.
    See, I disagree. I think he controlled himself and reacted about as well as anybody possibly could in that situation. Ever seen a Christmas Story? Big Boy could have gone all Ralphie on that punk and his smashed his face in but he walked away after one conflict-ending slam. When you're seeing red, that's not easy to do. And he only resorted to physically defending himself after being socked in the face. We can't assume the big boy is some self defense expert, he just reacted when physically assaulted.

    If that were my son I would pick him up from the principal's office and head directly to Hooter's. There I would let him have his first beer in celebration of the day he became a man and an internet sensation.

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    That's a poor example. If someone comes at me with a knife I can shoot them with a bazooka, they have a weapon that can kill me and I respond with one that can kill them back. Why I have a bazooka is a whole other question entirely.
    Well, that's the example they use when they prepare law students to take the Texas Bar Exam, so you might want to inform the Board of Legal Examiners that their interpretation of the law is incorrect.

    I don't see anything that kid did in his defense, that was out of line with what was going on. It's just as simple as him being stronger and able to pick him up and put him down hard. Now if he had pulled out a gun and shot him that would make your point.
    I agree. It's hard to define what excessive and non-excessive self defense is.

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    his parents probably called him a ing dumbass...hopefully.
    Parents that cool are one in a million. My kids are generally rather passive, except for the youngest so I couldn't imagine them being in this situation, at least from the bully perspective, but if my kid had that happen to him I'd laugh at his ass just as much as I'm laughing at this kid.

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    How can you classify proportional vs. a not proportional act of self defense? Are you saying that a 13 year old kid has to 1) be aware he's much bigger than a bully and 2) pull punches? And if so, what would have been a more appropriate act of self defense? Punching the kid back in the face?
    I don't know...why don't you ask the law how they currently classify it?

    No, I'm not saying the 13 year old kid has to know every detail of what's going on in that very quick situation...as a previous post says. For those reasons, I don't think he should have been suspended...can't expect that type of rationalization from a little kid. Also, punching the kid back in the face could have also resulted in something just as harmful. This is why I think it's bull , but whatever. Being suspended at age 13 is no big deal, no real outcome in the long run. The other kid got what he deserved.

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    all the bullies at my school were the big dudes size

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    Well, that's the example they use when they prepare law students to take the Texas Bar Exam, so you might want to inform the Board of Legal Examiners that their interpretation of the law is incorrect.



    I agree. It's hard to define what excessive and non-excessive self defense is.
    Seems like a pretty stupid example don't you think? It's my understanding that if someone comes at me with a knife I can shoot them if I'm licensed to carry a concealed weapon. Why should a bazooka be any different? Does it matter if it's a 22, or a 45? Where is the line drawn? Either way the guy is dead so what does it matter what size, caliber, or type of weapon I use?

    Again I don't know why you'd have a bazooka, and you might have a lot of other questions to answer, but you get my point.

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    I don't know...why don't you ask the law how they currently classify it?

    No, I'm not saying the 13 year old kid has to know every detail of what's going on in that very quick situation...as a previous post says. For those reasons, I don't think he should have been suspended...can't expect that type of rationalization from a little kid. Also, punching the kid back in the face could have also resulted in something just as harmful. This is why I think it's bull , but whatever. Being suspended at age 13 is no big deal, no real outcome in the long run. The other kid got what he deserved.
    The law doesn't classify anything - that question would go to a jury and they'd decide based on the specific facts and cir stances.

    The kid didn't anything wrong - he shouldn't have been suspended at all.

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    Seems like a pretty stupid example don't you think? It's my understanding that if someone comes at me with a knife I can shoot them if I'm licensed to carry a concealed weapon. Why should a bazooka be any different? Does it matter if it's a 22, or a 45? Where is the line drawn? Either way the guy is dead so what does it matter what size, caliber, or type of weapon I use?

    Again I don't know why you'd have a bazooka, and you might have a lot of other questions to answer, but you get my point.
    You can't respond to non-deadly force with deadly force. Deadly force is a gun, a bomb, or anything that explodes. That is the law of self-defense.

    The bazooka thing was just an example to prove my point. I dunno why you're going down an irrelevant tangent. My point is that you can't draw a line, and because of that, the kid shouldn't have been suspended.

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    The law doesn't classify anything - that question would go to a jury and they'd decide based on the specific facts and cir stances.
    Well then you answered your own question.
    The kid didn't anything wrong - he shouldn't have been suspended at all.
    I agree

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    You can't respond to non-deadly force with deadly force. Deadly force is a gun, a bomb, or anything that explodes. That is the law of self-defense.

    The bazooka thing was just an example to prove my point. I dunno why you're going down an irrelevant tangent. My point is that you can't draw a line, and because of that, the kid shouldn't have been suspended.
    A ing knife isn't a deadly force? It's extremely easy to kill someone with a knife, so if the law doesn't see it that way...that's ing re ed, and on par with many of our stupid ass laws.

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    You can't respond to non-deadly force with deadly force. Deadly force is a gun, a bomb, or anything that explodes.
    "Firearms, bladed weapons, explosives, and vehicles are among those weapons the use of which is considered deadly force."

    You're telling me a knife isn't deadly force?

    We all seem to agree on the main point though, except SFIE, and there's a reason he's in exile.

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    "Firearms, bladed weapons, explosives, and vehicles are among those weapons the use of which is considered deadly force."

    You're telling me a knife isn't deadly force?

    We all seem to agree on the main point though, except SFIE, and there's a reason he's in exile.
    Yah I wouldn't consider it deadly. I can see how people would disagree.

    But even if it was considered deadly, I'd still say shooting someone who's pulled a knife on you isn't proportional - which is really what any self-defense question of fact would turn upon.

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    a knife isnt considered deadly because nobody knows how to properly use/hold one

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    Growing up as a military brat I spent the first month at every new school getting suspended for not taking off of the bullies who wanted to test the new kid. So it doesn't suprise me that the kid got suspended.

    What does seem different from when I was growing up is that they say the parents of the little brat are seeking crimminal charges against the kid who just defended himself. My parents would have kicked my ass a second time for being a bully and then a 3rd time for being a stupid bully.

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    a knife isnt considered deadly because nobody knows how to properly use/hold one
    lol, I know I'd wind up cutting myself with one...

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    You guys don't think your average person can easily cut someones jugular??? Once a significant wound is there, that person is effectively done because the one with the knife can proceed to doing whatever the he/she wants.

    You average man can easily ram a knife into someones gut/chest....which often results in death alone.

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    someone forgot to tell dexter and all the mexicans that knives aren't deadly weapons.

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    Growing up as a military brat I spent the first month at every new school getting suspended for not taking off of the bullies who wanted to test the new kid. So it doesn't suprise me that the kid got suspended.

    What does seem different from when I was growing up is that they say the parents of the little brat are seeking crimminal charges against the kid who just defended himself. My parents would have kicked my ass a second time for being a bully and then a 3rd time for being a stupid bully.
    Wow...talk about being pieces of .

    Whoever said it was right though, cool parents are one in a million.

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    What does seem different from when I was growing up is that they say the parents of the little brat are seeking crimminal charges against the kid who just defended himself. My parents would have kicked my ass a second time for being a bully and then a 3rd time for being a stupid bully.


    just show the judge the video and he'll lol and void it.

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    Well no matter what happens the parents of the little bully can be proud their little precious is forever famous on the internets...


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    Whoever said it was right though, cool parents are one in a million.
    I did, but it's not even that, it's that most parents think their kids do no wrong, just as I'm sure this kids parent's are. Even if they acknowledge that their son did wrong, they still want to pass off blame to the other kid for his response, my response to that is you play with fire, you get burned.

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    Why was the little kid saying "you talkin " to the big kid? Is that how bullies do things, they accuse you of "talkin "?

    Pretty underwhelming video IMO, altho the little guy walking all crippled was funny

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    Yah I wouldn't consider it deadly. I can see how people would disagree.

    But even if it was considered deadly, I'd still say shooting someone who's pulled a knife on you isn't proportional - which is really what any self-defense question of fact would turn upon.
    You would be well within your rights if someone attacked you with a knife and -yes- a knife is a deadly weapon.

    If you pulled a gun and shot him you would be within your rights.

    Of course--a lawyer would try and get you charged with unlawfully carrying a weapon if you had no permit/license...but who cares--you saved your own life and this would be taken into account--that you were in fear for your life and acted to defend yourself...

    --you wouldn't even have to be attacked or cut...if a guy twice your size pulls out a knife and you are scared less and pull out a 9mm and shoot him...you are on good ground here...

    also...

    these are kids and the law is a little different...since in most situations...a child's records will be cleared once he becomes an adult...so this would be a juvenile offense and not a criminal offense like an adult would be charged with...

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