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Casspi wants out, I think he would be a good fit here, of course its already gonna be a dogfight for minutes next year.
http://www.jpost.com/Sports/Article.aspx?id=215173
He is still a very young player. IMO, being on a team with a great coach and highly professional teammates like SA could help him a lot.
Green trade value an availability with depend a lot on what will happen in the 6 weeks between now and the trade deadline. Right now, his trade value is in free fall: he hasn't scored a point since December 23rd.
I'm, like you, not high on Spurs 2011 first round pick. If Spurs need to trade him to get a player they like, they should do it. I have also no problem with Spurs trading De Colo rights.
Casspi wants out, I think he would be a good fit here, of course its already gonna be a dogfight for minutes next year.
http://www.jpost.com/Sports/Article.aspx?id=215173
Dare I say it...Casspi straight up for Hill?
I am sure the kings would do the swap in a second...I was thinking more along the line of blair for casspi..
It's an interesting scenario for both players. Blair is still limited by his size and Hill is limited by being stuck in between two positions. I would do Hill simply because I think Blair still has room(and will) develop more on both sides of the ball and Hill is pretty close to his ceiling.
I wouldn't trade Blair or Hill for Casspi.
Before his injury, James Anderson was damn good. I think he is a player who will be able to help a lot Spurs next year. I'm not even sure Casspi would be an upgrade over him.
Casspi is strictly a SF who could probably even play small ball 4. I still see JA as a SG who can give you occasional minutes at the 3. These 2 players could definatly co-exist and both get good minutes..
So you think Spurs can play with a 7 perimeter players rotation (Parker, Ginobili, Jefferson, Hill, Neal, Anderson and Casspi) ?
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I would think that Hill or Anderson would have to be included in any trade for Casspi.
No way should the spurs not make a trade to strengthen the sf position cause of Anderson. He has done nothing to warrent big minutes for the coming season. Not sure why you are grouping casspi with Parker and Hill.
Casspi is 6'9 and can play pretty well inside, not sure why you think he is a preimeter player.
I would trade bonner for him and possibly Neal to open up room for ja.
Me too. Anderson is just a better pure scorer than Casspi.
Now if we could ship out RJ for Casspi and whatever other assorted, non-essential pieces (i.e. Bonner, future draft pick) necessary to make a trade match, then I'm with that.
What I called "perimeter players" are PG, SG and SF.
Parker and Hill have an impact on the playing time available to Casspi through a domino effect. Spurs have a lot of quality guards with Parker, Neal, Hill and Ginobili. As a result, there isn't minutes available at SG for Anderson and Manu often plays SF.
I guess the key factor why we don't agree on Casspi is that I'm significantly higher than you on Anderson.
Yep. That's too bad Isiah Thomas isn't a GM. He would have loved RJ's huge contract.
Blair-Jefferson for Thompson/Casspi/Garcia works...
I Think is possible just 'cause Garcia has a similar contract (still four years) of RJ, Casspi has already asked for a change and Jason Thompson has had a bad season (but I like his potential).
I don't know if the spurs F.O. likes Garcia...
Look at what Sacto has done with their payroll going forward:
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...ries/kings.jsp
No way that they give up two players on rookie contracts plus Garcia to take back 3 years of RJ at 30 million dollars.
Any trade for Casspi is going to be young player(s) for young player(s). Hill, Blair, Anderson and Neal would be the menu to choose from.
IMO any scenarios involving the Kings this summer has to be seen in a bigger picture. to much is going on there and I'm pretty sure replacing Westphal will also be part of it. Kings will once more pick in the top 5 and they will have a lot of cap space (no matter how the CBA negotiations turn out). so there will be once more a complete roster overhaul and Casspi will only be a minor part of it. or, in other words, he might very likely be part of a package instead of being traded in a straight move.
many of the top prospects in this draft are SFs or combo forwards, considering the kings have Evans and Cousins as their building block, they will likely pick from that pool. makes Casspi even more expendable. a big question will be, what they do with Marcus Thornton. he looks great there and will want to keep him (he is restricted), but he will ask for a big contract. if they lose him, they might be interested in Anderson. (in Hill they would be interested anyhow, alongside Evans he could be a great fit). a package trade with the Kings could be an interesting option. Jason Thompson could be available as well.
would the Spurs be interested in a Casspi plus Thompson package? and what could they offer?
but back to the Anderson for Casspi question. I would do it. mainly because Neal provides most of what Spurs can hope to get from Anderson and he does it on a bargain price for two more years. Casspi just makes more sense for this Spurs roster than JA does. (btw. Casspi measured almost identically to Bonner, just 0.75'' smaller, slightly better wingspan and standing reach. he should be able to fill the Bonner role as well.)
the question is, would the Kings do it straight? likely not, considering JA's rookie season. (might take the 2011 pick as well)
I have never been a big fan of Casspi from hie Euro years (liked his talent and potential, but didn't like his at ude) but I have changed my mind quite a bit. he did mature when he came overseas.
however, what we know is that the Spurs were interested in Casspi and that they have scouted him for several years. he is still very young, so his upside should be comparable to JA's, considering his size and versatility it might be even higher.
Hill-Neal-Casspi-Blair-Splitter, that's a nice young line up.
You share a lot of my same thoughts...but the only difference for the scenario in my head was trading Hill straight up(perhaps Sacto throws in a pick?) and sliding Anderson over to the 2 guard where he would be more comfortable defensively.
the contracts are not comparable. as Mel said, RJ has 30 more guaranteed millions over 3 years, Garcia just 12 over 2 years. (last year is a TO)
the contract of Bonner is much better compare able, 8 guaranteed millions over 2 more years. if the deal was Casspi plus Garcia for Anderson plus Bonner, it's a no brainer IMO. (outside the fact that the numbers don't work and some more players need to be added.)
agreed, but this doesn't answer the question about Neal. SG minutes would IMO still be covered mainly by Manu and Neal. is Anderson an upgrade over Neal? (he has more potential and size, but currently Neal is the better and more helpful player)
I think without a doubt the kings are going to want to make some moves this summer (no work stoppage permiting) due to there moving home cities. Cant imagine the maloof's not wanting move some that young talent for more established NBA names to try and feel an arena with at least a team that has a possbility of making the playoffs.
This is exactly what I told Bruno. Anderson is a SG who is forced into the SF position due to the depth at sg on the spurs. If you could move Anderson for an upgrade at SF without losing any depth at the guard positions you do it. Anderson still has youth on his side for trade value but unfortunaly also can be labeled as an often injured player already due to pre draft and in season injuries.
but this would of course also mean, that there is limited interest in a player like Anderson, who would come with below zero marketing potential along with unproven NBA potential as well. if Kings want an established player for the guard position, they will might Casspi as a teaser in a trade for such a player. on the other hand, being well under the cap enables them to trade for almost any contract. they could offer their top pick plus players like Casspi and Thompson for a star player, or they use the cap space for an overpayed underachiever. (the Pistons might even trow in their top pick, if a team takes Ben Gordon off their books)
Unless it's Bonner, Blair or Jefferson why trade for this guy? I've seen what Hill, Neal and Anderson can do playing beside the best in the league against the best. Along with Splitter and a couple of the D Leaguers the Spurs have one of the best youth movements in the league.
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