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  1. #51
    Archie
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    Oh, so now I'm "misguided"? Right. You never turn down a Jason Kidd if he wants to play for you. Never. And especially not for crap like Olowokandi or PJ Brown for that matter. The Spurs will not have this level of cap flexibility again for a long time. And, of course, you would force Tim Duncan to go through what David Robinson went through in 1989-96 when he had to carry the damn team all by himself. Just so that the Spurs could have the 'perfect' lineup. Now if they would only get rid of that 6'7" Malik Rose and get someone who looks, but may not play like a 'real' power forward.

  2. #52
    Ed Helicopter Jones
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    I have to agree with Archie.

    I don't think you would pass on a Jason Kidd, ever.

    He's the best free-agent available, better than Brand, better than O'Neal. I think if the Spurs acquired Kidd, they would probably make multiple moves to shore up the other positions somewhat.

    If the Kidd experiment didn't work in the first year, the Spurs could trade him for half a roster from another team.

    He's the most valuable commodity out there, and I think you take that if you can.

  3. #53
    Archie
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    To clarify my position...I want the Spurs to come out of this summer having acquired one of the following: JO'Neal/Kidd/Brand/Payton. I'll leave it to them to worry about who is the best fit. But they must acquire a major talent this summer. Why? Because this will be the last likely time during Duncan's prime playing years that the Spurs will have a chance to add a major talent as his teammate without having to give up a lot of theirs. Add the talent, adjust. The worst position to have in the NBA is one in which you are capped out and you do not have a lot of talent on your roster that you can move. The Spurs were in this bind during the mid 1990s prior to the Duncan lottery. I'm not sure the Spurs can count on winning the lottery again in 2007.

    Think about it...the worst position the Spurs could be in (according to some Spurs fans) is that the Spurs have Jason Kidd and Tim Duncan under contract. Oh no. That would surely be a low point in the history of the San Antonio Spurs. No doubt.

    In reality, the worst position would be to miss out on any of those top 4, then use up their cap room this summer on miscellaneous 'talent' like Olowokandi, Howard, etc...and have no ability to make a major free agent acquisition anytime soon while the trade value of that acquired 'talent' is marginal at best.

    Add the talent, adjust as necessary.

  4. #54
    Ghost Writer
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    Your "clarification" comes a little too late. The discussion has moved from "would you add Kidd" to "who would you add first".

    Most of us have already said that you don't pass on a Jason Kidd if he wants to play here, but that's only after all star big man options are exhausted.

    And the difference between not adding a star to Robinson's teams and now Duncan's team is that Robinson never won a le on his own, so there was more of an urgency there.

    Coming off another le, there's no absolute need to add any ol' superstar to Duncan's Spurs regardless of the position.

    The Holt-ing Pattern, is, has, and always will be about replacing David Robinson.

    As a last resort, PJ Brown or Michael Olowokandi will indeed be looked at to do that for somewhere between the MLE and the max, rather than dumping max dollars to Jason Kidd — a luxury that would solve no weaknesses whatsoever.

    Repeat after me:

    We're winning a le with Duncan-Parker-Jack-Manu-Rose and Robinson.

    We will continue to win more with Duncan-Parker-Jack-Manu-Rose and J. O'Neal/Brand/PJ Brown/Olowokandi.

    Get it together.

    The team is winning a le with the current cast. Duncan wants a scoring big man. The team will need a scoring big man.

    Kidd's not the first priority this summer.

    Deal with it.


  5. #55
    Archie
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    Whatever, man. You said earlier in the thread that you would take Olowokandi before Kidd. Nice backtracking.

  6. #56
    Ghost Writer
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    I would. There's no backtracking there.

    I'd take Olowokandi between the MLE and the max over Kidd for the max this summer.

    I don't know how many times and different ways I can explain the reality of the situation to you.

    The Spurs are not desperate for a second star anymore, pal. We're winning a le this season with what we've got. They're going to upgrade the one starting spot that will be vacated this summer.

    Get it through your thick skull.

    Try reading before reacting sometime.


  7. #57
    baseline bum
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    If the Spurs sign Jackson and Claxton for $5 million combined they'll have the capspace to throw a max deal at Brand next season.... not that I'm advocating that. I'd rather spend the capspace on Payton + Kandi/Brown than wait until next year and just lose more than $3 million in capspace if worst comes to worst. If the Spurs decide to Holt for Brand all they can really do this season is offer a big-money 1-year deal to Zo and fill out a bench of ring-hungry vets on 1-year deals.

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