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  1. #351
    why would i be mad that your sorry country cant even host its own games?

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    why would i be mad that your sorry country cant even host its own games?
    lol dude sometimes it's just sad how you try to go about "talking "...



    You could've tried harder...

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    Japan pulled out of Copa America. If the USMNT would send an A team we could probably get an invite. The MLS will probably say FU to that though.

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    The USMNT's A team is in the MLS?

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    A good portion of it is. You can knock the MLS but its far from a league everyone makes it out to be and its no surprise that the surge of good young US prospects has to do with it.

    Off the top of my head players that might be called up from the MLS are:

    Ream
    Gonzales
    Agudelo
    Bunbury
    Dax McCarty
    Brek Shea

    And to be honest, those are the players who would benefit most from going to the Copa America.

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    Japan pulled out of Copa America. If the USMNT would send an A team we could probably get an invite. The MLS will probably say FU to that though.
    Spain got the invitation but hasn't decided yet.

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    Spain got the invitation but hasn't decided yet.
    Yeah I'm sure they didn't even bother with it. (The US) MLS won't budge on the issue.

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    Yeah I'm sure they didn't even bother with it. (The US) MLS won't budge on the issue.
    Which is completely preposterous and perplexing... The Copa America tournament could only benefit US Soccer... if at the very least to help identify prospects that can step it up when the compe ion/stakes get higher and when the opposing footballing style (typical of international matches) changes from game to game...

    All the U.S. would need is a core of at least 4-6 "A-Teamers" to compete... if Landon, Dempsey, Bocanegra and Howard all said yes, it wouldn't matter who else accompanied them to South America... 'that team' would be in most games and compete...

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    Which is completely preposterous and perplexing... The Copa America tournament could only benefit US Soccer... if at the very least to help identify prospects that can step it up when the compe ion/stakes get higher and when the opposing footballing style (typical of international matches) changes from game to game...

    All the U.S. would need is a core of at least 4-6 "A-Teamers" to compete... if Landon, Dempsey, Bocanegra and Howard all said yes, it wouldn't matter who else accompanied them to South America... 'that team' would be in most games and compete...
    For whatever reason, I didn't even include Landon in my MLS group above. Total brain fart. The problem is that clubs don't want lose their players for events outside of CONCACAF if they don't have to. And they don't have to.

    Why is the LA Galaxy going to say ok to Landon going off in playing in games that aren't required when it already loses him in the middle of the season for the Gold Cup and World Cup along with friendly dates? It just doesn't make any sense for them. The MLS and US Soccer are not synonymous and the MLS is at a point (and has been for some time) when its not going to get rolled over.

    IIRC, this was a large issue of contention the first time US Soccer courted Klinsman to coach the team. The MLS isn't going to release players for tournaments its not required to.

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    For whatever reason, I didn't even include Landon in my MLS group above. Total brain fart. The problem is that clubs don't want lose their players for events outside of CONCACAF if they don't have to. And they don't have to.

    Why is the LA Galaxy going to say ok to Landon going off in playing in games that aren't required when it already loses him in the middle of the season for the Gold Cup and World Cup along with friendly dates? It just doesn't make any sense for them. The MLS and US Soccer are not synonymous and the MLS is at a point (and has been for some time) when its not going to get rolled over.

    IIRC, this was a large issue of contention the first time US Soccer courted Klinsman to coach the team. The MLS isn't going to release players for tournaments its not required to.
    While the whole issue is understandable from the clubs' perspective... U.S. Soccer Federation goals should take precedence over MLS ones (obviously the issue gets far more complicated and murky on the business side of things -- kind of like NBA vs. FIBA)...

    Were this to happen in other footballing nations, it is the players who would demand to be allowed to play for their National Team.... as it is a matter of National Pride...

    Furthermore, given the name of the tournament, it would behoove CONCACAF to send its best representatives to the Copa America tournament. Except they, much like the U.S. Soccer Federation, don't have the authority to impose or enforce 'preferred player' participation on MLS clubs (despite their presiding jurisdiction as delegated by FIFA)...

    Sad really (but understandable).

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    USMNT U-20s fail to qualify for U-20 World Cup, fall 2-1 to Guatemala

    http://www.examiner.com/soccer-in-na...1-to-guatemala


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    USMNT U-20s fail to qualify for U-20 World Cup, fall 2-1 to Guatemala

    http://www.examiner.com/soccer-in-na...1-to-guatemala

    The future sure is bright..

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    It is bright. That was the result of poor coaching and inexperienced players but it really doesn't mean all that much in development. This is the first US team at this age level with that level of talent. Those aren't amateur players but almost everyone on that team has a pro club they are with and while Rowe doesn't he's a huge prospect and will go #1 in the MLS super draft or will sign in Europe as soon as he's done with college.

    It does suck to lose, but onlya fool would write off the level of talent on that team over a single game to a team playing in front of a home crowd. No big deal in the long run.

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    Oh, and that team was stacked even with several better players who didn't go. Juan Agudelo could be on our U20 team.

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    Buddle won't even get called up for Gold Cup. Your boyfriends days are done, Manny.

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    Buddle won't even get called up for Gold Cup. Your boyfriends days are done, Manny.
    I'm not too sure about that. I have him in the top four strikers. The only other player I'd put above him is perhaps Herculez Gomez. Its possible they only bring 3, but they did take four to the World Cup so I expect them to bring four here.

    The only 3 I see in consideration for that fourth spot are Davies, Gomez, and Buddle. I obviously hope Davies has regained enough form by the summer but not expecting it.

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    The depth chart as I see it going into the Gold Cup.

    Striker

    1a. Juan Agudelo
    1b. Jozy
    3. Edson Buddle
    4. Teal Bunbury
    5. Chris Wondoloski

    2103283028230823028320. Robbie Findley

    AMF

    1. Clint Dempsy
    2. Landon Donovan - I love Landon but Dempsy is playing better right now
    3. Diskerud
    4. Kletsjan
    5. Bedoya
    MF

    This is hard because all three of these guys played well at times and bad at others lately. I hope MB90 gets playing time soon.

    1a. Bradley
    1b. Jones
    1c. Edu
    4. Dax McCarty

    Gets really tough after this. I guess you can consider players like Torres and Convey at the edge of the mix. Brek Shea too, maybe. Maybe even Beasley. Holden being out really sucks ass.

    CD

    1. Ream - anyone who thinks different. So tired of seeing our backs just boot the ball right away. Ream is the only one who doesn't do this. Dude MUST be starting during the gold cup.

    2. Bocanegra
    3. Gooch
    4. Demerrit
    5. Gonzales

    I really want to put Gonzales above Demerrit but here's to hoping Jay gets some form back by actually playing in the MLS as opposed to sitting on his ass.

    RB/LB

    1. Cherundulo
    2. Chandler - love this kid. LOVE LOVE LOVE
    3. Lichaj
    4. Bornstien.
    24902840284028490284902810498409. Spector - I know this er is going to be on the roster and it pisses me off.
    Striker will be Jozy/Juan/Teal. Dempsey able to move up to striker as well, and I'd expect to see that happen at the end of games.

    Have you forgotten/written off Benny?

    Dolo seems unlikely to be fit by Gold Cup. Boca will play LB with Chandler at RB. Why in god's name would you have Bornstien over Spector?

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    Bornstien is better than Spector. Watch the 2 friendlies again and watch how often Spector pushed up. Pretty much never. Its not like he's a great defender, he's got to make runs and push up from the back.

    I just think Benny is behind those I listed. I could see him above Dax McCarty though. Not before any of the attacking mids I listed, though.

    Interesting that this week Dallas FC played Break Shea at LB. Thats a good situation to watch for the USMNT. I think Break Shea is a good player but not for the nats at mid. Too crowded. If he can find time at LB and actually do well (he did well Saturday) then he'll have an easy in.

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    1) You are crazy if you think Borstein is better than anyone.
    2) You are crazy if you think Benny is behind the likes of Dax and Bedoya

    LB will continue to be our biggest weak link. Is Brek a natural left footer? That would help...

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    Yeah he's a natural left footer. Did you know Spector is playing mostly at MF for his club?

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    I'm not saying Spector is a great fit in the back for us. But he's 10000x better than Bornstein. Borstein should start an intermural team with Ricardo Clark, Robbie Findley and Edson Buddle as people who should never see another cap.

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    Your both Benny just came back to the MLS.

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    Nice. Lets just add to the hype.


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    Nice. Lets just add to the hype.

    saw that live last night....it was a sick goal.

    This kid just needs to stay humble

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    The 4-5-1 didn't work with Jozy up top, but I wonder if it could with Juan up there. With Holden out it isn't as pressing a concern (though we still have to leave one of MB, JJ and Edu on the bench). I don't want to be experimenting too much in the Gold Cup (or against Spain for that matter, that could get really embarassing, really fast) - but going into WC Qualifying with Holden fit I hope Bob looks at that formation again.

    In any event, we still need another striker.

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