Yup this is snother kill me but I do not look at the stats.
You can get crazy. I hate stats really !
I don't know about Ginobili. He still is not ready to play the game. Willis Reed type of player - maybe.
But there is Tim Duncan for sake!
About Hill. he was trying to be too aggressive and that's why he failed to succeed. Indiana Goeorge - well he took it to heart too much.
Anyway he needs to be more patient and execute better.
Same with TP. he can be vicious inside.
Umm give Tim more touches?
Well I don't think that it will work that great. He needs more then in reg but the spurs cannot just change the strategy all of sudden. Ball movement is almost non existent.
Also three pointes. Spurs were unable to produce in that area and that was the reason they are no1 seeded.
well okay
This is the time to see if the spurs are a real contender cause Thunder looks great.
The Spurs are also not your typical 1st seed, too. And this version of the Spurs is not your typical Spurs either. Defensively, they have got to get stops at the end of the game. No three's if the game is close in the last few seconds. Foul them.
The Spurs should be able to win without Manu. But they did miss him in his ability to get a stop by forcing a turnover, steal, taking a charge, etc.
Bonner got lucky that game, when his man isolated him, he missed some easy shots. Ginger still didn't box out well, I saw him give up offencive boards more than once.
Since any talk of desperately throwing a mythical big out there to save the defense is just wishful thinking, the above is absolutely the critical point. Honest to God, what happened to the running game? Watching the Spurs walk the ball up (and having George Hill doing most of it) had me screaming at the TV for most of the game.
With or without Manu, the Spurs need to be running and sharing the ball. This is the new Spurs, and this is how they win. Waiting 82 games to turn into a half court team is a recipe for disaster.
Yet he was probably the most consistent defensive big in the game. If Dice is going to be as bad as he was in game 1, then Blair and Bonner are who you want out there.
BTW, can we get some minutes for Duncan? What the did they rest him for all season?
I just guessed, but I've been bitterly disappointed about that all season, so I knew it couldn't have been very many.
Wrong thread, idiot.
Dice was terrible thats true, he's playing much worse than last year, don't think he'll get any better, looks like age has caught up to him. He shouldn't be starting, he would be perfect coming of the bench, though. Bonner/Blair didn't do much better, in first half the kept the game even, and in second half they gave up a run to the opposing team. Other than bonners two threes, he had a pretty unremarkable game. He did better than I expected, but it's only one game, he's gonna have to show some consistency, if he wants to drop that choker tag.
If Blair and his horrible jump shot can play against MEM then in theory Splitter should be able to play as well. Splitter isn't the savior, but should be considered as an option against their frontline, if only to give some variety, because whatever the team is doing isn't working that well.
Also, Splitter's constant moving around on offense, in theory, should help the offensive movement (not that anyone ever passes him the ball when he's rolling to the basket, but that's another issue...)
Agreed. I'd really love to see Pop just throw the lion's share of the minutes at Blair and Duncan if he's absolutely convinced that Splitter's incapable of contributing as much as Danny Green. You could get Bonner four or five shots in only a couple of minutes because there's realistically nothing he provides that Blair doesn't if you've got two or three other three point shooters on the floor at the time.
rj. blair and dice better show up today
someone else posted it, but it's worth repeating.
The same "Splitter's not ready" argument was made for playing Mason and Vaughn over George Hill. It was a terrible mistake then and a terrible mistake now.
Splitter can help the Spurs win more than any big not named Duncan. It's never too late to start over, every excuse-laden game for not playing him isn't the end, just an opportunity for a new beginning.
But what's the point, really? We all know he's not playing. This team is a fraud team that is exactly the same as last year's fraud team except Neal is in for Mason/Bogans. A busted up Manu, an out of sorts Parker, and so on.
The whole point of signing Splitter, the whole point of waiting these three years on him, was to help the team. By not playing Splitter, the Spurs deserve to lose.
They can beat Memphis by just reproducing last year's first round of getting carried by the big 3 plus Hill, but they are the same flawed team.
Splitter has less "experience" than Blair?
Splitter has played dozens of in-or-out games around the worst european arenas, places where you go in, but you don't know exactly WHEN you are going out if you win th game. Places where you can't hear your teammate screaming at you at arm's length.
Not the creepy graveyard places like Sunday, where you could hear a coin drop while the ball is in play.
He played far more than his average, I guess Pop thinks he just can't sustain a high level of play for 40+ mins, and sadly, he's probably right.
Manu continues to be the answer to MEM's riddle.
Even if the plan was to not play Splitter, it should have changed when Blair and McDyess were saddled with 5 fouls apiece. At the very least, Splitter give you height, good position defense, does the dirty work rebounding and taking scharges, and most importantly, has 6 fouls to use. Leaving the team defensively neutered because of foul trouble is just assinine when you have that left on the bench. For even just a few minutes? Vintage Pop.
When Horry and Duncan were in foul trouble, as they often were, against Dallas in 2006, Pop put in Oberto instead of Rasho or Nazr. The word you're searching for is "grudge".
Actually, that's kinda the opposite. That season, Pop went almost the whole year with Hill as the backup point guard before inexplicably changing things at the last second and dropping him out of the rotation. Pop gave Hill the needed minutes to be ready for the playoffs ... but then chickened out of actually playing a rookie point guard in the playoffs.
This season, Pop never played Splitter like we all imagined. If Pop actually starts playing Splitter in the playoffs, it'd be the exact opposite situation.
Maybe because they only missed 30 shots.
Great points all around by timvp!
And? In the regular season, the Grizzlies averaged 16 offensive rebounds against the Spurs on an average of 46 missed shots.
A .833 defensive rebound percentage is a lot better than a .652 defensive rebound percentage.
It's absolutely maddening that a coach could have so many staring contests with himself and always seem to blink, particularly after successful regular seasons.
Random fact:
That George Hill three-pointer the Spurs got after the Battier three-pointer was statistically a fantastic shot. Hill from the right corner this season was a better shooter than any player in either corner in the entire league. If the Spurs could have picked any shooter in any spot, that's probably the shot they select.
Sorry, I must be brainfarting. Are you referring to the shot they wanted that RJ almost threw away?
0:56 Marc Gasol makes layup (Tony Allen assists) 96-98
0:31 96-98 Tony Parker misses 16-foot jumper
0:28 Zach Randolph defensive rebound 96-98
0:23 Shane Battier makes 25-foot three point jumper (Mike Conley assists) 99-98
0:10 99-98 George Hill misses 23-foot three point jumper
0:10 Marc Gasol defensive rebound 99-98
0:10 99-98 George Hill personal foul (Tony Allen draws the foul)
0:10 Tony Allen makes free throw 1 of 2 100-98
0:10 100-98 Antonio McDyess enters the game for Matt Bonner
0:10 Tony Allen makes free throw 2 of 2 101-98
0:10 San Antonio full timeout
0:10 101-98 Matt Bonner enters the game for Antonio McDyess
0:01 101-98 Richard Jefferson misses three point jumper
George was absolutely wide open on that shot also.
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