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    I would trade Parker for a PG of Conleys level and a young athletic big like Arthur. Don't laugh but I can see how that could benefit Memphis with Parker leading the ship with quality bigs zibo and Marc around

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    I have not one regret when I became a Spurs fan in 1990. Spurs legacy may be over for while but you bet I'll be cheering them on every year in the future. I have no doubt some where down the Line Spurs will be back to create a new legacy. It's such a joy to be a fan of this franchise.

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    last 4 seasons all i can say is....pop and FO wasted tim duncans prime with build around him and a change of game style that made us win 4 rings playing big to small ball horse and continu to do so while other teams out there are putting big lineup back into their lineups

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    The main problem I see with restructuring is that it will take some money and I'm not sure the FO wants to spend that kind of cash. They've been poaching around, getting 2nd rounders that end up playing great basketball during the season but crash out when it counts. The FO are specialists in finding good talent don't get me wrong but it needs to count for something.

    All the other teams execute blockbuster deals bringing in the most expensive contracts and players, etc. They add right pieces in free agency, etc.

    That's the problem. The only player the Spurs have added in a similar capacity was RJ and they tried and it doesn't look like it worked at all.

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    The Spurs are going to be mediocre for a while. Too much money tied up in old players and in a market no NBA big time FA wants to go to. The only chance for the Spurs to win a championship again is to lose about 60 games a few seasons and hit on another superstar in the lotto. It's happened twice but will it happen again?

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    Well, mediocrity is the worst place to be in this league so I would just rather see them blow it up. You don't want to become Houston trying to fight for the 8th seed every year and finishing with the best lottery record. If you aren't a top 5 team, you're better off being a bottom 5 team. We haven't experienced that around here, but I'd rather just suck it up for a couple of years and get some great quality young guys through the lottery.

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    I was in mourning last night. It is indeed the end. We still have a talented team but Duncan can't do it alone. We needed youth and size; we got some youth injected in the lienup but lack size. Unfortunately the youth didn't step up in the playoffs. I welcome the lottery in a couple of years.

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    If there is anyone I want in charge of a rebuilding process, it would be RC. I have full confidence in his decision making ability. I don't know if he intends to work beyond the Pop and Tim era but I hope he does.

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    last 4 seasons all i can say is....pop and FO wasted tim duncans prime with build around him and a change of game style that made us win 4 rings playing big to small ball horse and continu to do so while other teams out there are putting big lineup back into their lineups
    We didn't waste anything in 2008 (made WCF, ran out of gas) Injuries didn't help in 2009 (manu out for year). 2010 and 2011 you can dog Pop and the FO but by no means is Duncan in his prime during these years.

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    I know a lot of threads have been started like this one in past years.. but this is the one I agree with. This group of guys were great to watch over the years. Great memories! Thank you! No small market will do what you did. Maybe okc, but they will do it using the Spurs model for small market success. I beleive sam is running the show over there.

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    I will turn my back on the Spurs if Manu and Tim dont retire in silver and black.
    Yeah me too! I'll take a couple bad years over seeing them in another uniform.

    That said, I'll wait until the series is actually over before writing their obituary. Hopefully the players don't give up as easily as so many "fans".

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    If the worst happens in the next few days... do you guys think Tim and Pop would retire to protect their legacy?
    He is my favorite player of all time and i am saying this with a tear in my eye but i think Tim should retire. He is just a s of the once great player he was. I was watching game 1 of the 2007 finals the other day and even then Tim at 31 was still a great great player. He could dominate on both ends and command so much attention. Tim was amazing that post-season especially against the Suns. His body has failed him now at age 35. He can still play good D and rebound but his offensive game is just gone. In 2007 he'd be abusing Gasol on the block and Randolph would be getting abused even worse since he is undersized. Maybe they'd be putting up some nice numbers but Tim would be sporting 25 and 15 a game in this series on 50%.. Spurs can't win big with Tim not being great anymore. Tim has done all he is going to do in the NBA and to play on sadly to me doesn't make much sense.

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    We didn't waste anything in 2008 (made WCF, ran out of gas) Injuries didn't help in 2009 (manu out for year). 2010 and 2011 you can dog Pop and the FO but by no means is Duncan in his prime during these years.
    I agree 100 percent. There are so many things that need to go right for a team to win a championship. If talent were enough then the Lakers would win every year. Injuries, coaching, and some luck are also needed. The Celtics probably would have won last year if not for Perkins injury. The 2002 Lakers would not have repeated if not for Horrys big shot against Kings. Heck the Spurs may have not won in 99 if not for Sean's three against the Blazers or the 2003 heroics of Steve Kerr.

    To call this the end of an era is a bit premature. The Spurs still have the talent and coaching we just need a some luck to change this series around. If not this year then we can try again. Hopefully, Splitter can work during the offseason to improve his game and become the big that we have coveted since 2007. I'd also like to see the Spurs somehow acquire a true back up point guard. Someone that can run a team when Parker is out. The Spurs have lacked a true backup point guard since 2003.

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    What exactly do you hope to get back for Parker? I'm curious because as someone mentioned this is a very very heavy PG era and there are plenty out there and plenty that I would take over Parker for a number or reasons. Just curious what you guys think you would get.
    Knicks would have been the perfect trade partner but they have no pieces left now.

    I would deal with Pacers. They have size and young PG


    Honestly though, what is the point of dealing Parker and getting young players in return if it just declines the Spurs next year and by the time you start seeing the benefits of younger players (2012,2013) Duncan might retire by then

    Spurs should just return everyone, not like they have much room for moves anyway
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    Trade off everyone for young talent and draft picks for a serious run in 2013/2014

    Like some on here have mentioned the way Spurs are headed towards two more years of steady decline followed by lottery picks. So basically 4 to 5 years before Spurs are even on track to be a contender again

    Why not make the moves NOW and be a contender in 2 or so years?

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    A Battier three pointer and Randolph three pointer don't equal the end of Tim, Tony, and Manu.

    This forum is full of crybabies.

    Wait until one of the teams wins 4 games.

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    A Battier three pointer and Randolph three pointer don't equal the end of Tim, Tony, and Manu.

    This forum is full of crybabies.

    Wait until one of the teams wins 4 games.
    Cry babies = Realists

    - First of all, your the #1 seed. Games shouldn't be coming down to the wire in the 1st Round, like this
    - The real issue here is lack of respect and fear when it comes to the Spurs. An 8th seed and perennial loser franchise with 0 experienced players except for Battier, tanked to face you in the 1st Round
    - They've now won 3 of 4 games against you

    They talked the talk and have come in and walked the walk. They have 2 post players that are playing at a higher level than any post player on your roster. AND their PG is outplaying yours.

    Haven't the Spurs been outed in the 1st Round 2 of the last 3 years?

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    yup, man no joke i'll admit it here im having a hard time dealing with it, and i didnt think i would cause im not an emotional person lol im a mean person lol.
    i feel like all the years of me going to high school/college/my ups and downs with dumb women i had the spurs to go out and have a beer and see em kick ass and hang on to them as we won those championships, i live downtown and would feel so immature but i would go downtown and celebrate with random ppl during playoffs like a fool !!

    it was so crazy/surreal and now it s hitting me cause it really feels like its over. and theres no words to match the appreciation and love i have for those guys that put us fans/city on their back and gave us so much.

    THANNK YOU!!
    TIMMY/pop/MANU/DAVID/SEAN/brent/BOWEN/PARKER/horry/finley

    i think with R.c buford here we can get back to rings faster than ppl think, but we need to say goodbye to pop its time. and clean out pops brwn nosers
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    Who knows? If there will be a 2012 shortened season (50 games or so) we may have another run. 30+ less games could just well be the best cure for old bodies.

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    He is my favorite player of all time and i am saying this with a tear in my eye but i think Tim should retire. He is just a s of the once great player he was. I was watching game 1 of the 2007 finals the other day and even then Tim at 31 was still a great great player. He could dominate on both ends and command so much attention. Tim was amazing that post-season especially against the Suns. His body has failed him now at age 35. He can still play good D and rebound but his offensive game is just gone. In 2007 he'd be abusing Gasol on the block and Randolph would be getting abused even worse since he is undersized. Maybe they'd be putting up some nice numbers but Tim would be sporting 25 and 15 a game in this series on 50%.. Spurs can't win big with Tim not being great anymore. Tim has done all he is going to do in the NBA and to play on sadly to me doesn't make much sense.
    i believe you have a point and am right there with you ive been feeling super depressed all day and i think alot of us real fans realize the time has come.
    we have done great as far as setting up for this day, as far as im concerned timmy can help this team just having his presence/rebounding and MOST OF ALL MENTORING TIAGO ALL NEXT YEAR!!! can you imagine how good tiago can get with timmy being his idole and mentor??? he wont be tim duncan of prime but all he really needs to do is learn offensive moves from timmy d and we got ourselves a starter center.

    i say we package bonner/dejuan blair/jefferson and get a good player or move really high on the draft and picka dominate Pf we also have ryan richards and pops dumb ass better get his ass over here asap. his methods and system of develping players are utter . we need youth and talent not the bonner system

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    I just don't think Tiago is anywhere near the answer for our future. Scola wasn't either, but he would have been a better option for our aging players at the time.

    At this point, I think we just got to hope somebody overpays for Tony and maybe Timmy decides he is ready to hang it up before he totally falls apart.

    Then we can suck ass next year and gear up for the 2013 NBA draft.

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    Who knows? If there will be a 2012 shortened season (50 games or so) we may have another run. 30+ less games could just well be the best cure for old bodies.
    I think it's obvious at this point it's not a case of aging legs but the Spurs roster just isn't that good. Spurs are built for regular season basketball NOT slow n pound playoff basketball

    When Spurs had D.Rob and Duncan or Bowen, they were perfect for that.

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    We all knew it would come. I don't think many of us expected it to end losing to a #8 seed, but it did and there is no reason to be sad about it.

    It's been a of a ride and I've enjoyed every minute of it. On his 35th birthday, it's clear it's over.

    Is it just me, or is this the same post every year the last four years at this time?

    At some point, some NBA "historian" will pinpoint the end of the Spurs' "run." But it can't be determined without the luxury of time. Maybe it was '08. Or maybe (somehow) the Spurs win again and the end is actually '13.

    But it can't be '08, '09, '10, and '11. It just can't.

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    Russ, If they are to lose in the 1st Round again that would make 3 outta 4 years. At that point you have to call the Lakers 4-1 WCF lose the end. That exploited just how large the gap between the Spurs & Lakers was.

    Lakers in the following years added Artest (elite defender) while the Spurs lost their elite defender.

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    Those Spurs fans who followed the era of the twin towers, Duncan, and with the big 3 and experience the feeling of how fulfilling it was, and the triumph of winning a championship 4 times, you almost cry watching your favorite team the last standing there on the court, hugging their supporters and their families, should thank this team and most of all the catalyst of ALL THOSE TROPHIES-the GREAT TIM DUNCAN,who embodies the true NBA player inside and out, a role model. He raises his hands in winning and bows down and accept defeat gracefully & those times of not making it in June.
    No matter what happens we experience it all and we are proud of our favorite team.
    4 les....What a great feeling.

    Thank you.

    Still good luck for game 5 Spurs. 2 more HOME GAMES, 1 game at a time, who knows?

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    if we going to rebuild? we must make the move now or end of next season, reason being whether theres a lockout or not...duncan 21m and gino will be off the books, then you have ghill and i think blair also up for new contracts...who both will probably be gettin above MLE

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