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Manu would be the better second banana.......but thats because Dirk would be by far the better first banana.
I remember reading this thread and just shaking my head at the homers.
Manu
Dirk
Just read through this thread again. Lot's of gold. Findog dropped major loads on this thread tbh.
Manu would be the better second banana.......but thats because Dirk would be by far the better first banana.
I remember reading this thread and just shaking my head at the homers.
I love the ultimate gnsf quote "Manu has the intensity and fire that makes him better"...
The thing that make Manu the better is pick is intangibles. When he's at his best he's getting, a key rebound, making a big steal or hitting a clutch shot. Dirk hits shots and he's unguardable but a one-way player and that's it.
You guys should work for the media, how quick we forget. My god do you remember Manu in 05? And it's not like dirk has'nt had great teamates and he's not been able to get it done. No one is saying Manu is better now but overall how is he not the more complete player and compliment to Duncan?
You are the dumbest human being I have ever come across.
I agree, Duncan would make a nice comliment to Dirk.
I canīt remembered how many rings won Dirk.
English please
Second banana to Duncan... easy question tbh it's Manu.
I voted for Manu just to keep the ridiculousness of this thread going.
I voted for Manu so I would be eligible for the drawing.
Because Dirk is better. Dirk + Duncan from 2003 win nearly every le since.
According to some spurstalk members :
- Manu = Dirk
- Splitter = Griffin for ROY chances (poll before the season started)
- Duncan is still an all star caliber player (a lot of people thought he deserved it when he got it this year)
- Parker should have been an all star this year
Don't understand how they got eliminated in the first round
I don't get how people still think like this when we're badly aching for another 7-footer.
Splitter isn't 1/4th of the player Dirk is and people are calling for Pop's head because he doesn't play Splitter, and yet some of these same people wouldn't take Dirk over Manu...
Not to mention that the best frontcourt lineups in the game for the last three years have been Bynum/Gasol/Odom and Garnett/Perkins...how people don't see that a prime Dirk/Duncan lineup would all over both of those lineups is ridiculous.
And because we're dreaming here, if we had gotten Dirk, either drafted or traded before the the '03 year, Pop would have had a chance to instill defense in him earlier...it's not Dirk's fault Don Nelson got his hands on him early...so those that think Dirk is a sieve on defense, which he's not, to think he couldn't play defense on a team coached by Pop is ridiculous. Especially considering that Dirk's always been a team player.
I just think you forget how good Manu was in his prime and healthy. And I think Manu fit more of a need Duncan already did some of the things dirk does. And as far as making big plays no one has come up more than Manu in big moments.
It would have to be Dirk. Manu was never, in his wildest dreams, as dominant as Dirk. He's great, no doubt, but Dirk and a prime Timmy would be a 6 or 7 ringer.
Did you even read when I wrote, or just call me dumb you ing bag. Are you gonna tell me Manu has not made more clutch plays then dirk? I'm not saying for one minute dirk is not great or he would'nt have been great with Duncan I'm just saying I think Manu fits better with Timmy. So go suck your moms !
tsk tsk...English please
You know what he was asking. There's no need to make fun of someone's 2nd or 3rd language. You try to speak his. A lot of the Spurs are not even from the US (the best ones actually).
Dirk has not won a ring. Neither has Lebron. Would anyone here take Manu over Lebron?
Great timing.
This isn't a who is better thread. This is a "who do you think would pair with Duncan better" thread so it leaves a lot of room to arguments. Also during that time neither Manu nor Dirk were playing at the level they're playing right now. Now that Manu is out of his prime is easy to forget how good he was during it, he would post 20+ pts in less than 15 shots pretty regularly and dominate a game just as much as any other player in the league. And Dirk although still a superstar (and yes, a better player than Manu) wasn't playinjg at the level he is playing right now where it seems like he can't miss, there's a reason he is a 47% shooter lifetime (45% in the playoffs).
So trying to make it seem like it was ridiculous during that time to argue that Manu could have been a better sidekick for Duncan than Dirk is not only unfair but an uneducated behaviour (not to mention a disrespect to a Spurs legend). Prime Manu vs what most people thought it was prime Dirk as a Duncan sidekick is definitely debatable.
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In life, there are winners and losers, just like in basketball.
Some of the losers put up big numbers.
They are still losers.
Manu is a winner, at all levels.
Nowitski -so far- a loser, at all levels.
How refreshing it is to see a 50-50 result on this one.
Life would be alot tougher if most would be winners.
PS I would obviously pick a 37years old Robert Horry over Novitski.
So you think Prime Manu is a better basketball player than prime Karl Malone?
Is it me, or does anyone else feel the same way when they see someone bring up the IDIOTIC rings argument? I always feel like that argument is being made by some insecure fan who can't figure out a logical way of arguing for their choice of player over another player and cops out and goes with the rings argument. That argument works when we talk about the best players on a team (aka Duncan > Dirk) but not when arguing Manu versus Dirk.
Manu is a star and makes winning plays....but he would never have been in a position to make those winning plays in the finals if he didn't have Tim Duncan on his team.
I agree. Dirk is only invincible on offense. That's it. Manu can get a rebound or steal when he's playing at his best, and that's what counts.
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