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  1. #26
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    Would it kill any team more than the Mavs to lose to the Heat? All the residual anger from 06 and the posts from Mav fans in this forum, feels like there might be a mass suicide if the unthinkable happens again.
    Well the anger is that to this day we feel the Mavs were a better team, and that difference between those teams was covered up by the officiating.

    I can safely say that these Mavs are not superior to the '11 Heat. So there would be no bitter feeling at all.

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    Soon to be

    Wade-2
    Tired and old bag Dirk-0

  3. #28
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    If the Mavs can just keep games close down to the late moments of games, they will win them more often than not. The Heat sucks ass at closing close games in general, while the Mavs are the best in the league at closing close games. The only way the Heat out-closes the Mavs is if either they are on fire with their jumper (not likely), or if the Mavs turn it over a load of times (also not likely).

    IMO the Heat are going to have to consistently blow out the Mavs to win this series. If the games are close, that definitely favors the Mavs.

  4. #29
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    Wait. how does this favor the Mavs in close games when Miami has two of the best closers in the game

  5. #30
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    I can safely say that these Mavs are not superior to the '11 Heat. So there would be no bitter feeling at all.
    In top end talent, the Heat are superior, sure. I still have yet to believe they are a better basketball team though. It's arguable that every team the Mavs have played so far in the playoffs are more talented overall than the Mavs, but weren't as good as the Mavs in combining their efforts as a team.

    I would be extremely disappointed if the Mavs lose a series of close games to the Heat. If they get the kicked out of them though, I can live with that.

  6. #31
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    I would be extremely disappointed if the Mavs lose a series of close games to the Heat. If they get the kicked out of them though, I can live with that.
    Stretch, gettin' his dislike for "close" on.

    Ya weak , you.

  7. #32
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    This series despite Wade, Bosh and Mavs overall superior depth ...comes down to Lebron vs. Dirk. Whichever superstar puts his stamp onteh series, will win. Lebron with his transcendant all around play or Dirk with impeccable mid post and shot making game.

    I think this could be the best Finals in recent memory because at times though packed with drama, last year's got ugly at times. From a skill level standpoint this finals SHOULD be top notch. Both Dirk and Lebron are at their peak (though the scary thing is Lebron could be even better) we really have not had a Finals where BOTH superstars of both teams were at their peak ... since maybe Kidd vs. duncan ... (though i could be wrong)

  8. #33
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    Wait. how does this favor the Mavs in close games when Miami has two of the best closers in the game
    1. neither are as good of closers as Dirk

    2. they run some of the tiest offensive sets ive ever seen for good closers. make no mistake, the Mavs wont be making the awful mistakes in close games like the Bulls have on offense, while playing much smarter on defense, and making them pay for trying to go iso on every possession, by forcing them to shoot tough jumpers, an aspect of their game that is not very consistent.

    when you look at the fact that they have Bron, Wade, and Bosh, they seem scary. Then when you look at Joel Anthony, Mario Chalmers, and Mike Bibby surrounding them, they suddenly don't look so tough.

    The Heat havent had to face a team with the shooters and passers like the Mavs have. Miami's defenders like to wander and help out... too much. And if they try that a bunch against the Mavs, they will be ed. Either Barea will have a monster series, or the shooters will kick their ass.

    The only thing that concerns me a bit about the Mavs, is that they are really going to need Stevenson to hit his shots, or Brewer to step up big, because Stevenson, Brewer, or Marion will need to be on the court pretty much at all times, so they always have at least one guy to try to hassle Bron/Wade.

  9. #34
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    This series despite Wade, Bosh and Mavs overall superior depth ...comes down to Lebron vs. Dirk. Whichever superstar puts his stamp onteh series, will win. Lebron with his transcendant all around play or Dirk with impeccable mid post and shot making game.
    I disagree.

    Lebron and Dirk will put their stamp in this series regardless, so that's a given.


    Dallas would need Terry to continue his hot streak and the Heat would need to utilize Bosh the same way against Dallas. Those two are the biggest x factor.


    But i'm supremely confident in this series because no one in Dallas can offset Wade's production and impact.

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    If the Mavs somehow pull this series out, I can probably safely say it will be the best sports moment of my life.

    it. Mavs in 6.

  11. #36
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    If they lose on a Wade free throw, will it be the worst?

  12. #37
    Poppin' Champagne badfish22's Avatar
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    It would be hard to beat 06, especially since Im going in to this series with less confidence of a win than I did in 06.

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    1. neither are as good of closers as Dirk

    2. they run some of the tiest offensive sets ive ever seen for good closers. make no mistake, the Mavs wont be making the awful mistakes in close games like the Bulls have on offense, while playing much smarter on defense, and making them pay for trying to go iso on every possession, by forcing them to shoot tough jumpers, an aspect of their game that is not very consistent.

    when you look at the fact that they have Bron, Wade, and Bosh, they seem scary. Then when you look at Joel Anthony, Mario Chalmers, and Mike Bibby surrounding them, they suddenly don't look so tough.

    The Heat havent had to face a team with the shooters and passers like the Mavs have. Miami's defenders like to wander and help out... too much. And if they try that a bunch against the Mavs, they will be ed. Either Barea will have a monster series, or the shooters will kick their ass.

    The only thing that concerns me a bit about the Mavs, is that they are really going to need Stevenson to hit his shots, or Brewer to step up big, because Stevenson, Brewer, or Marion will need to be on the court pretty much at all times, so they always have at least one guy to try to hassle Bron/Wade.
    1. Dirk is on another level this year. Lebron and Wade have both been lively in clutch situations this postseason. 2>1

    2. Agree with the fact that the Heat havent faced a team that can shoot the lights out like Dallas. The Heat have been very impressive against Chicago because well, they only need to shut down Derrick Rose and the whole Bulls offense goes down the drain.

    This series is going to show if sheer talent alone can win an NBA le or if a much structured team like Dallas will come on top, so we'll see.

  14. #39
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    Just extended to 6 for us, chill.

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    Heat have 3 superstars. Mavs have 1. Not really a fair fight imo thanks to the Decision. Decision=collusion.

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Heat have 3 superstars. Mavs have 1. Not really a fair fight imo thanks to the Decision. Decision=collusion.
    You guys are O & Forever. That's your place in this world.

    Don't with it.

  17. #42
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    But i'm supremely confident in this series because no one in Dallas can offset Wade's production and impact.
    Dallas bench/role players most definitely can offset that, in addition to the fact that the Heat role players won't be pitching in much at all. Bron and Wade are going to have to do everything, and I don't see that working against a team as smart, deep, and well-coached as the Mavs.

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    So many American Airlines basketball arenas, so few meteorites

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    Dirk will go nuts but Miami's D will shut everyone else down. On the other side LeBron, Wade and Bosh will score. All three capable of having a big game any given night, not the same Miami team that struggled offensively...

  20. #45
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    1. Dirk is on another level this year. Lebron and Wade have both been lively in clutch situations this postseason. 2>1

    2. Agree with the fact that the Heat havent faced a team that can shoot the lights out like Dallas. The Heat have been very impressive against Chicago because well, they only need to shut down Derrick Rose and the whole Bulls offense goes down the drain.

    This series is going to show if sheer talent alone can win an NBA le or if a much structured team like Dallas will come on top, so we'll see.
    The Heat hasnt really faced teams as tough as Dallas has faced. IMO, Boston and especially Chicago were super overrated to begin with. I thought the Heat would beat the out of both teams, even though a lot of people thought they would lose.

    History has always favored well structured teams with good teamwork, as opposed to supertalented teams that are not balanced and have chemistry problems at times.

    I feel pretty good about this series.

  21. #46
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    So many American Airlines basketball arenas, so few meteorites
    Oh, there's enough. We just need a way to get them here.

    Worse comes to worse, al-queada is probably looking for revenge after bin ladens murder and a lot of planes fly over AA arena.

    Just sayin.

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    Dallas bench/role players most definitely can offset that, in addition to the fact that the Heat role players won't be pitching in much at all. Bron and Wade are going to have to do everything, and I don't see that working against a team as smart, deep, and well-coached as the Mavs.
    If Miller and Haslem keep playing like they have against the Bulls, Miami bench is the last of their worries. The problem against Dallas is Dirk right now looks unstoppable and Miami has no answer for himPERIOD...

  23. #48
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    Dirk will go nuts but Miami's D will shut everyone else down. On the other side LeBron, Wade and Bosh will score. All three capable of having a big game any given night, not the same Miami team that struggled offensively...
    I still don't believe in their defense being able to shut down a team as balanced as the Mavs, with the shooters and ball movement they have.

  24. #49
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    If Miller and Haslem keep playing like they have against the Bulls, Miami bench is the last of their worries. The problem against Dallas is Dirk right now looks unstoppable and Miami has no answer for himPERIOD...
    I'd put my money on Barea, Terry, Peja, and Haywood outperforming Miller and Haslem.

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    Dirk will go nuts but Miami's D will shut everyone else down. On the other side LeBron, Wade and Bosh will score. All three capable of having a big game any given night, not the same Miami team that struggled offensively...
    If bosh is guarding dirk, Bosh will be in foul trouble.

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