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Traveling wasn't called, but he did lose the ball and regained it while in the air. If that wasn't a travel, then the subsequent putting the ball on the floor wasn't a double dribble.
Did Chrissy actually trip and fall down? No. Does it matter once the other foul is called? No.
Are you setting a new record for incessant whining on a messageboard? Yes.
Traveling wasn't called, but he did lose the ball and regained it while in the air. If that wasn't a travel, then the subsequent putting the ball on the floor wasn't a double dribble.
A record you currently hold mind you.
Yes, he did. Idiot. rofl
And the foul on Haslem was AFTER that happened, it was on Bosh's shot attempt.
Have you been getting face- ed the entire day? Starting with the Mavs getting owned, despite having an 8 on 5 advantage, and ending with me on the internet? Yes.Are you setting a new record for incessant whining on a messageboard? Yes.
Technicalities, technicalities.
In the end all that matters is Lebron violated the rules and therefore the heat relinquished the ball to the mavericks.
If I were you, I'd be much more worried why Mahinmi was shooting Dirk's free throws. Even the announcers were like WTF?
No, I wouldn't be worried, because nobody should have been shooting free throws, because there was no foul. JVG: "I don't know who or where the foul is on that play".
+1. TJastal, you're debating this like a closet Mavs fan. You mad at LeBron that bad?
Any reasonable, objective viewer would have seen the clear bias by the refs in favor of the Mavs. If they'd been playing the Spurs, I would have put a glass through my TV.
Bottom line is those types of calls are rarely made, unless its blatantly obvious and there is more upper body contact than just "landing on a foot".
Keep going though, your whining on a messageboard is becoming almost legendary. Like the army says, I want you to be the best whiner you can be.
So start naming all these calls you think the refs screwed up. Put up or shut up.
I'm whining, yet you're blaming this loss on the referees; even after Mavs fans are saying it was one-sided... in THEIR favor.
The biggest blown call of the game which clearly changed the momentum of the game just happened to favor the heat. Do you dispute this?I'm whining, yet you're blaming this loss on the referees; even after Mavs fans are saying it was one-sided... in THEIR favor.
But it was only one blown call. I still gave the heat their due props. Any reasonable team should be able to overcome one blown call. I merely pointed it out in the face of all the incessant whining in this thread.
As for the mavs fans, of course they probably think the calls favored them after getting butt ed in 2006. And I'll be willing to bet there are plenty of mavs fans that think as I do; that the refs called it the right way this time instead of handing the heat the crown.
Most Mav fans are talking about how the refs gave them nearly every call tonight and were still unable to win. It's not complicated to look this stuff up.
Off the top of my head:
1) The loose-ball foul on Haslem when him and Dirk were both going up for the ball; no push by either player
2) The phantom double-dribble by Lebron when the ball got tipped, he regained possession, landed, and began dribbling
3) The missed travel by Jason Kidd before Wade fouled him behind the arc
4) Shawn Marion running into Lebron
5) Bosh getting poked in the eye by Kidd with no call
Not to mention that probably half the fouls on Dirk and the loose-ball fouls were phantom calls, with a little flopping thrown in for good measure by the Mavs (e.g., Stevenson on at least one occasion)
I have no idea what call you're even talking about, honestly.
Well, Mavs had something coming to them called karma in 2006. After seeing Dirk Noringski, a jump shooter, parade to the foul line over 20 times in games against the Spurs that year.As for the mavs fans, of course they probably think the calls favored them after getting butt ed in 2006. And I'll be willing to bet there are plenty of mavs fans that think as I do; that the refs called it the right way this time instead of handing the heat the crown.
Did you not read what I said about "mav fans" already?
Well, at least somebody finally attempted to field a list of grievances, lame as it is.
Already debated #1, #2, #4, & #5 .. in a nuts Haslem was guilty of the push, Lebron violated the rules end of story, Lebron didn't shoot the ball when he should've, & Bosh is an actor.
That leaves one "supposed" travel by Jason Kidd which is more than cancelled out by the missed backcourt violation that cost the mavs a momentum changing 3 pointer just before halftime.
Nice try.
Apparently "should have shot" is grounds for not calling a foul now.
It was incidental contact, and the refs chose to ignore it (which happens quite often). Lebron had his window of opportunity to take the shot while Marion was up in the air; he should have went up with his shot and forced the refs' hand. He didn't. He settled for a weak fadeaway and got his shot stuffed. He has nobody to blame but himself.Apparently "should have shot" is grounds for not calling a foul now.
How is it you cannot comprehend this?
http://youtu.be/jt1q5Lq68-o
How the you can call that incidental contact is mind boggling.
"Oops, I just jumped into the air and landed on you." Incidental!
If that's incidental, then so is every foul in the NBA. To say nothing of the almost exact same situation earlier in the game when Kidd faked Wade and there was similar contact.
So you've actually trying to say you've never seen incidental contact where the refs allowed the players to play on? In a non-shooting situation? Pardon me but I question your knowledge of basketball if this is case.
As for the Wade / Kidd contact, similar situation yes, but Kidd actually shot the ball and forced the refs to make the call. Shuffled his feet beforehand I think but that was missed. That's the only legitimate missed call any of you whiners have come up with so far in my opinion.
Oh, btw, love that cheesy flop by Haslem where they called Mahinmi for a push from behind where he basically put his hand on Haslem and Haslem suddenly "fell" out of bounds like he'd been tasered. All because he was trapped under the basket and had nowhere to go with the ball.
Breen: It was a shove.. not MUCH one, but a shove nonetheless..
Jackson: Not a foul. Not a foul Mike.
OMFG stfu already bro, mavs got alot of calls tonight man! Most will see that.Oh, btw, love that cheesy flop by Haslem where they called Mahinmi for a push from behind where he basically put his hand on Haslem and Haslem suddenly "fell" out of bounds like he'd been tasered. All because he was trapped under the basket and had nowhere to go with the ball.
Breen: It was a shove.. not MUCH one, but a shove nonetheless..
Jackson: Not a foul. Not a foul Mike.
Well then tell us all what about all these supposed bad calls then instead of whining like es!
So far one person has come up with a list of 5 things, 4 of which were total horse or questionable at best.
Here's your challenge: Name 5 bad/missed calls the mavs got in their favor, I'll even give the first one.
1. Kidd's traveling
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
Oh, and poor poor Chrissy got her wittle eye poked and didn't get a wittle foul call, let's all complain and for poor Chrissy.
Manu had his nose broken by Dirk's elbow last year. And the refs called HIM for the foul yet I don't recall any of you little pansies whining and crying about that.
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