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    I can actually see that happen.
    Yeah me to. In my oppinion all three teams come out on top in your scenario.

    Especially new york who would pair Chris Paul with Carmello and Amare Stoudemire. That's a nasty freakin trio! New Orleans get an all star PG and starting SF and save cash from the retiring dice.

    Spurs get a starting C/PF capable of putting up 14pts 10reb 2blocks on high FG% and a solid championship tested, clutch shooting defensive PG.

    I'd do that trade for sure. and i reckon new orleans, san antonio's and new york's front office would think about it to, nice one.
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    SAS: Gasol, Ariza
    NO: Parker, Odom
    LAL: Paul, Bonner, McDyess

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=5rn28ja

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    SAS: Gasol, Ariza
    NO: Parker, Odom
    LAL: Paul, Bonner, McDyess

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=5rn28ja
    Very intruiging to

    I say new orleans definately do it
    i say san antonio definately do it

    Lakers i dont know. They get the best PG in the game but would they get rid of two of there main 3 bigs to get him? They'd probably have the best backcourt in history in Paul and Kobe.

    Interesting prospect. We'd need to shop for a starting PG though. I don't quite trust George Hill to successfully run the point all year.

    Gasol
    Duncan
    Ariza
    Ginobili
    F/A PG

    Would be nice to see
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    Parker+ Neal+RJ+Dice contract+Blair for Paul+Ariza+Okafor

    Reasons why could work

    for N.O.

    N.O. knows that they're going nowhere with the current line-up
    Okafor contract is a bad one compared to the player's value
    Blair and Neal contract are really friendly for two years and the players are young...Blair have already showed that, if given time, can be a 10/10 man
    Parker contract is a very good one compared to the player's value
    Dice contract goes off the books
    RJ could finally became the second/third offensive option, that's still capable of being

    for S.A.
    They just get in a single move all the missing pieces they need.
    1) a play maker that can defend
    2) a small forward that can defend and occasionally hit the three
    3) a third (pseudo Robinsenesque) big still young enough to run and block shots

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    I wish

    Okafor
    Duncan
    Ariza
    Ginobili
    Paul

    Now that's just nasty. There's not one weakness in that starting lineup

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    You lost me in the first paragraph when you said Duncan was a 10/6 player (13/9, actual) who wasn't a defensive force. Of all NBA big men, he had the second best pts/100 possessions in the league while on the floor.
    Duncan's efficiency is still up there (21.9) but his time and touches will probably decrease next year - hopefully - w/ Splitter playing more. 10/6 is speculation.

    Even at 13/9, the Spurs are still short quite a few points vs. championship compe ion. Let's quit fooling ourselvesl about Duncan...one of the best (THE BEST in my opinion) PF to every play the game. In his prime, yes, the Spurs are Championship caliber. Now, Spurs not contending.

    Time to find his replacements (will be a combination of people).

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    Mcdyess,Hill for Darko,Ridnour and the 20th pick...makes sense for Minn to get rid of 2 overpaid long contracts, while Spurs get two needs:Center and backup point guards. Minn doesn't want too many rookie contracts and need a combo shooting guard, and don't want 3 point guards with rubio coming over, and they will compensate us for taking 2 bad contracts for the 20th pick.


    Rj and Blair for Childress and Warrick..spurs take 2 more long term contracts that suns want to get rid of, and Rj fits better in there up tempo system. Blair can be there back up PF to Frye, and has a good contract. Childress helps us out and fits better in our system, and warrick is a decent back up power forward.

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    I'd take a shot at Nenad Kristic and or Kwame Brown as our bigs next to tim. Boris Diaw at SF. JR Smith as a gunner off the bench or starting if pop wants manu coming off the bench.

    Then trade RJ Blair and Bonner for anything we can get.

    C Nenad Kristic, Kwame Brown
    PF Tim Duncan, Tiago Splitter
    SF Boris Diaw
    SG Manu Ginobili, JR Smith
    PG Tony Parker, George Hill, Gary Neal

    Not a bad 10 man rotation. Not brilliant but pretty descent. Fill in some holes by trading RJ Blair and Bonner and we could be in contention without breaking up the big three or doing anything too drastic.

    Something like that wouldnt be too bad

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    Krstic just signed a multi-year deal in Russia, doesn't look like he will play in the NBA again at this stage.

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    oh! my bad, i didn't know that

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    Now that dallas is on the market again, one possible trade for RJ haters could be
    RJ+ Dice contract for Haywood + Brewer
    I wouild never do that 'cause of Haywood contract, but it's clear a trade that could benefit us in the short term.

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    Now that dallas is on the market again, one possible trade for RJ haters could be
    RJ+ Dice contract for Haywood + Brewer
    I wouild never do that 'cause of Haywood contract, but it's clear a trade that could benefit us in the short term.
    Us? Yes. Dallas? No.

    No deal.

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    bulls looking to trade gibson and asik for a SG.....both of them make under 2 mil next season....

    Hill for gibson and asik?

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    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=20103

    Here's what isn't in question: the Chicago Bulls need an upgrade at the two guard position. Nothing against Keith Bogans, Kyle Korver, and/or Ronnie Brewer, but not a single one of those guys is a player you'd expect to be the starting shooting guard on a championship team.

    What is in question is what player would fit best with this team, and also what player Chicago can most realistically acquire. There are a few free agents on this list, but the Bulls don't have any cap space, and who knows if the sign-and-trade option will be a possibility under the new CBA? The rest of the guys are already under contract, so Chicago will have to work out a deal to bring them in.

    They've got some tradable assets, but not many. Taj Gibson and Omer Asik both make under $2 million next season and have considerable upside, and the team does hold what could eventually be a lottery pick from the Tyrus Thomas trade with Charlotte. It's lottery protected in 2012, but loses more and more protection each year for four years. Charlotte projects to fall short of the postseason for the foreseeable future, so that could be something they toss into a deal, but beyond that pick, Asik, and Gibson, what does Chicago have that other teams would really want?

    That's the question at hand, and as we look at a handful of potential two guards today, we'll also explore what the team would have to do (or could do) in order to bring in that particular player. One way or another, though, the Bulls have some work to get done. Here are a few suggestions as to what that work should entail.

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    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3ddekr4
    Granger is their franchise player and moreover they have darren collison, so no point in trading for tony

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3resl4t
    same with suns, they have brooks and will likely pay him to be their starting PG..

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3e2h5nu
    this could be possible, but with the news of rubio coming over to play in the NBA for the wolves, this likely wont happen

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    bulls looking to trade gibson and asik for a SG.....both of them make under 2 mil next season....

    Hill for gibson and asik?
    I can tell you they're absolutely NOT moving Asik.

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    Since Charlotte is re-tooling again, anyone for an RJ/Jack swap? Their money is almost identical, and Jack has one less year remaining. We'd have to do them some sort of solid to take RJ's extra year, maybe throw in one of our young SGs, or work something with Dice's contract. RJ can still score, and his post-season fades won't be a problem for a team that likely won't see that time of year for the rest of his contract.

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    Since Charlotte is re-tooling again, anyone for an RJ/Jack swap? Their money is almost identical, and Jack has one less year remaining. We'd have to do them some sort of solid to take RJ's extra year, maybe throw in one of our young SGs, or work something with Dice's contract. RJ can still score, and his post-season fades won't be a problem for a team that likely won't see that time of year for the rest of his contract.
    RJ, dice for jackson, tyrus thomas....MJ was stupid enough to get rid of gerald wallace....spurs FO should throw in a pick and see if he bites

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    RJ, dice for jackson, tyrus thomas....MJ was stupid enough to get rid of gerald wallace....spurs FO should throw in a pick and see if he bites
    I think the first part works, but I think CHA can get a LOT more for TT than Dice's half price contract. I don't think even a pick+cash would do it.

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    Jackson and Diop should be packaged if Im MJ..Diop is still owed around 14 mil over 2 seasons.

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    not sure if this would impact anything involving the Bobcats but:

    sam_amick Sam Amick
    RT @jwquick: Rich Cho hired as GM of Charlotte Bobcats, Charlotte Observer reporting

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    If bulls are trying to move Gibson, I'd be happy w/ parting w/ Hill, Neal, Anderson or Butler (in that order) for him. Gibson has length, athleticism and can play defense.

    The Spurs have 5, count them 5 SGs (I don't care what anyone says, Butler is an SG). Losing one of the above would be of little impact.

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