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    you know it took 2 years for duncan to trust his point guard right
    do you think duncan will trust another point guard right away
    manu will trust him right away to?
    pop will trust him to?
    chemistry takes awhile
    see heat....
    He would trust a veteran player who knows how to play the game, like Calderon.

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    yeah I am sure.........

    and he is not going to get lots of playing time with him because pop will give him limited minutes
    so they will not play together much and then flame out in the playoffs IF they make it that far

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    My thoughts:

    -I have to admit TP made me mad when he said the Spurs had no chance going forward. Even if it's true, a team with any sort of hope of contending can't have their starting point guard waving a white flag before the offseason even begins. I know he has tried to take back his comments but deep down, I bet TP thinks the run is over. That's a problem.

    -But even a disbelieving TP is worth a lot more than a lottery pick in a weak draft. Straight up for a lottery pick is a joke. Adding an average talent to go along with a lottery pick (say Omri Casspi) is still a joke. You gotta get more than that for TP.

    -If the Spurs use TP to salary dump Richard Jefferson, that would be unforgivable. Everyone knew RJ's contract was horrible when he was signed. Getting rid of RJ's contract would be very nice. But to do so using TP as bait? It'd be a low point in franchise history.

    -If, IF, the Spurs really do want to trade TP, you gotta get back at least a starting quality point guard plus a couple other plug-and-play pieces. I'd actually prefer a roleplayer who can produce right away than a draft pick in this weak draft.

    -The best idea to me is to keep the Big 3 together and to shake up the supporting cast. Getting Parker to believe again would be easier than to begin some sort of half-assed rebuilding project. Because really, if you trade TP, you might as well trade Manu and rebuild for real.

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    It would be a great thing for the Spurs to acquire Thompson. I would love this trade.

    But of course Sacramento would be ignorant to do this deal.

    To be done with RJ once and for all and acquire a talented young big and a nice pick would be the best thing for the Spurs to get out of Parker.
    Thompson is a quality second big. But he's like a poor man's Aldridge, in that he lacks athleticism and mobility. He would not be a good fit next to Duncan defensively and he's not a good enough prospect going forward for that to be a secondary issue.

    Hopefully the Spurs are exhausting every avenue to rid themselves of Jefferson. McDyess' contract, Blair, the 29th pick, even next year's 1st unprotected, should all be on the table (not all in one trade though). One of Hill, Anderson or Neal shouldn't be ruled out either, depending on the return.

    I'd rather they do that, then trade Parker for #7 and Casspi, even if they are able to rid themselves of Jefferson in the process. Not only is the return not great, but what a slap in the face it would be to Duncan and Ginobili. I agree with timvp, I'd rather they keep the big three intact, re-work some of the pieces around them and continue trying to contend.

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    you know it took 2 years for duncan to trust his point guard right
    do you think duncan will trust another point guard right away
    manu will trust him right away to?
    pop will trust him to?
    chemistry takes awhile
    see heat....
    Shut the up idiot..................... stop talking nonsense and start thinking on what team to root for .............. trust? chemistry? the ponnys won with ing Barea and old man Kidd at PG.............. that position is overrated imho.

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    As stated earlier, Vesely, is the player the Spurs are targeting in the top 10. However, the key here are Toronto and Washington.

    Colangelo was apparently really high on Vesely, but has since cooled off. Washington is/was interested in Vesely, too, yet if they can position themselves for Kanter, they will take him.

    Either way, if Vesely is gone by 7, the Kings deal is off.

    As mentioned, Vesely is an intriguing player. He is not your typical Euro, and will attack the rim relentlessly. He is that long 3 that everyone on this board has desired. If you watch video's of him, he has flashes of Manu Ginobili. The kid is fearless and has played against top Euro compe ion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zlB5w08_Es

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QZxGrVco3o

    The second video is a pretty good break down.
    As I mentioned in another thread, I like Vessly a lot, but he's not a fit for the Spurs. He's an open-court, attack-the-basket, kind of player. He doesn't shoot well from beyond the arc. Meanwhile, the Spurs prefer their SFs to setup in the corners and become perimeter shooters. It didn't work for RJ and it wouldn't work with this kid. Unless the Spurs are planning on revamping their offense, I don't see this as a match.

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    Shut the up idiot..................... stop talking nonsense and start thinking on what team to root for .............. trust? chemistry? the ponnys won with ing Barea and old man Kidd at PG.............. that position is overrated imho.
    38 year old Kidd & Barea indeed. But we can't trust George Hill to run the show, because we've never seen him run a pick and roll.

    Speaking of trust, I wonder if Timmy & Manu trust TP around their wives since the whole sexting scandal?

    I'm betting they keep an eye on him whenever he's around and probably have scrolled their wives' phone at least once looking for inappropriate texts from Tony since it happened.

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    Ric Bucher just reported (very matter of factly) that Klay Thompson is the Spurs object of desire.

    Trade TP for Mike Miller. Awesome.

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    -The best idea to me is to keep the Big 3 together and to shake up the supporting cast. Getting Parker to believe again would be easier than to begin some sort of half-assed rebuilding project. Because really, if you trade TP, you might as well trade Manu and rebuild for real.
    This.

    Spurs landed #1 spot in the West, so the Spurs still have it and can compete so a total rebuild isn't necessary. Spurs just need to figure out their big men and try and secure that area up, Bonner/Blair are not securing that spot.

    I truley think Pop is just majorly butt hurt about Tony's comments and wants to trade him just for making those comments.

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    FORGET 'RUMORED,' MYSTERY MAN SPURS WANT TO TRADE UP FOR IS DEFINITELY KLAY THOMPSON... Due in NY yesterday, detoured to SA to meet Pop, RC

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    that , they better not trade Tony for Clay ing Thompson.

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    ^^^^^ please no.

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    Ric Bucher just reported (very matter of factly) that Klay Thompson is the Spurs object of desire.

    Trade TP for Mike Miller. Awesome.
    That makes no sense. What is their obsession with not all that athletic, good shooting/mediocre defending two guards? The only logical explanation is that it would be a precursor to another trade, involving either Anderson or Neal. But if that were the case, we'd probably be hearing rumors.

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    FML if that's true. Tony Parker for an average shooting guard prospect? How many mediocre shooting guards does this team need on its roster with Hill, Anderson, and Neal already there?

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/cat.../draft-reports

    Sources say the Rockets and Spurs are interested in Jonas Valanciunas if he ends up sliding. The Spurs also are eying Washington State's Klay Thompson, according to sources.
    San Antonio has offered George Hill to at least one team in the late lottery in an attempt to get into the first 14 picks if it can’t move Tony Parker to Sacramento or Toronto for a spot in the top 10. The Spurs obviously can only move one of the two points -- if at all -- and are attempting to include Richard Jefferson in the deal.

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    Jesus this better not be true.

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    Pop and RC cant be be this ing stupid can they?

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    Seriously what the ? Why do we need ANOTHER undersized two guard? We need a ing REAL point guard, a small forward, and a center.

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    No way the Spurs trade Tony for Thompson. Hill for Thompson I could see although it still doesn't make much sense but that could eventually be a good trade.

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    You know this is bad when Jon Barry, yes Jon Barry is flat out saying "if this is true, you are way undervaluing TP on the market. You have to get more than Thompson. Especially when you have plenty of shooters and James Anderson in the wings. It makes no sense to me what they are doing"


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    This has to be some CIA .

    Everyone and their mothers know that while RJ sucks at basketball, swingman was not our biggest problem.

    We're trying to get a big.

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    I normally think that CIA Pop is bull but they can't be this stupid right? They have to be doing something else right??

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    Oh Pop Troll, you so crazy


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    Pop has been one of the dumbest coaches in this league for a while but even i don't think he's that dumb to pull a TP trade centered around Klay Thompson.

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    I'd rather them ing trade parker/ for Josh smith/hinrich

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