All I know is some well known forum member said that everyone can be traded. Everyone. I said Everyone.
and there wont be either.
The rest of the NBA will not view RJ in the same way the Spurs did two seasons ago. This was a marriage that was doomed from the start.
On the right team, RJ still has value in this league. Even though he's already as good as he'll ever be and he's been on the wrong team for two seasons.
There should be a bookie bet for a draft day trade.
RJ is actually an upgrade for the Kings at the 3. He shot higher percentages than any of the 3's they had last year. The Parker, RJ for Caspri and the #7 pick trade seems to actually work well for both teams. I may be in the minority that isn't overly thrilled with it as I am not impressed with Caspri. Although I understand that RC has a woody for him. This would free up a ton of cap space and give the Spurs a great deal of flexibility going forward however.
Huh? RC seems to be taking TJastal's trolling to heart.
If anything happens we probably won't hear about it until another team is in a position to draft whichever target the Spurs have right now. It would be stupid to announce a trade for a lottery pick right now and have the other teams try to double guess how to screw the Spurs up.
I guess it's time for bed. Prob wake up to some blockbuster trade.
Iggy one time.
If the Spurs were in win now mode, wouldn't a Nash for Parker trade work straight up? I'm not saying either team does it, just that it would be nice to see Nash running the Spurs offense.
Good morning...trade Parker thread.
In reading all that has been said since I went to sleep, I don't think Parker is going anywhere. The Spurs have screwed themselves badly on RJ's contract and the rest of the league is making that pretty clear to them. If any deal happens today, it will be a deal for Hill to get into the late lottery. Both RJ and TP will be in a Spurs uniform if/when the season starts.
Spurs ed themselves by resigning RJ after his house first season with us. Were they expecting him to magically pull his finger out of his ass and produce again? Why oh why did they resign that got and why oh why was it for so long and for so much $$$ in idiots, the F/O really ed up resinging that
TRADE NO. 11: San Antonio trades Tony Parker (50 cents) and DaJuan Blair (quarter) to Cleveland for no. 4 (30 cents), Anderson Varejao (quarter), and $7 million in cap space (20 cents). Final tally: Cleveland (75 cents), San Antonio (75 cents).
Now we're talking! If Cleveland took Williams first, landed Parker for the fourth pick and flipped Varejao for the younger/cheaper Blair, that's their best possible haul for the 2011 draft (and also, the funniest outcome, because David Kahn would suddenly be stuck looking at ANOTHER point guard at no. 2 unless they traded it).16 As for the Spurs, they already have a Parker replacement in house (George Hill); they desperately need someone like Varejao; they desperately need to shave a few million off their cap; they'd be restoring their team karmically and sending Parker off to be strangled with a wire by Clemenza; and they'd be drafting in the top-five for the first time since 1997. Great deal all the way around.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...-trade-picture
sorry if posted, too many pages to read that I haven't. Its an interesting idea at least...
And if we could throw in RJ and take back Baron Davis....
If they don't sign RJ to this new contract, they don't resign Bonner and they don't sign Splitter either. In retrospect that wouldn't necessarily have been a bad move (we will know for sure if/when Splitter gets some decent PT), but from the front office point of view, knowing how high they were/are on Bonner and how hopeful they were about Splitter, it totally made sense.
You cannot look at things like this in a vacuum.
Good morning, Parker homer. A bit of wishful thinking eh?
I think it's pretty obvious the spurs are playing hardball right now but they'll soften up eventually when they find no takers for RJ and move TP somewhere else, probably for something like Casspi + 7th.
I think trying to work with Cleveland at the #4 pick is promising. They can draft Williams with the #1 pick. Then Minny either has to draft Kanter or let the other top player in the draft go by. They probably trade the pick and Irving gets drafted. Utah takes Knight and Kanter falls to us at 4. He gets tutored by Duncan for a couple of years...and who knows.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=6ezxkx7
Gortat
Duncan
Dudley 42% career 3PFG, career high 46%!
Ginobili
Nash
Gortat is tough and has at ude which the spurs need, dudley can drain the three ball (note: i am unsure of his defense) , manu is manu, and nash would make life so much easier for timmeh and everyone else.
Screw parker, he can go to phoenix and sleep with vince carters wife or something
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=5szjapo
C Tim Duncan
PF Josh Smith
SF Antawn Jamison
SG Manu Ginobili
F/A PG or George Hill if worse comes to worse
Why would Phoenix do this? Seeing as Jefferson basically has negative value in any trade with that ridiculous contract, you'd need to throw in Splitter & Neal, + a future pick for them to even pick up the phone.
I'm wondering how much a draft pick is worth, when it comes to trade.
The Cavs have a huge trade exception from Lebron, they could easily absorb Parker + RJ with it and give the Spurs Varejao, the 4th pick and some cap relief.
I suppose so. I'm just rambling lol
What are Baron Davis and Ramon Sessions gonna do then while Parker is playing point guard and scoping out their wives? Play hopscotch behind the bench?
I could not read every post in this enormous thread.
But...
One item that I did not see that should be reasoned in to all this:
Ginobilli, remember him?, is a better point than Hill imo, much better. I believe it would wear Ginobili down full time, and I know Hill has proven himself expendable, but for those who think we have Zero point if Parker does happen to get shipped, think again. It aint Hill and it aint zero.
I also think it is pretty clear Parker was being sent a "whaddya worth" message, even if the Spurs have no intention of shipping him. He does have a pretty fat contract.
Then the question: If we do want to ship Parker do we:
1. Want a big?
2. Want a guard? I think there are 3 talented guards, none on the level of Parker even 3 years into the future. (Did Miami, LA, Dallas make our brass think we dont need a "true" PG a step below the likes of D. Will, Chris Paul, D. Rose; we dont have the surrounding talent that would allow this imo)
3. Just want to rid ourselves of dollar space, especially if some team coveted Parker enough to take Jefferson with him? (Is it at all possible that Duncan cares enough about the franchise/city, ala Robinson, to take a cut?) ie start over with some old talent remaining in Duncan and Ginobili.
The rest is unimaginably complex if we factor in NBA/players no agreement possibility, trade Parker for something more significant than just a draft pick (ie not just a bench player's expiring contract, etc...) In any event, it will take a blockbuster breakthru for us to be real contenders next season. Note that Chandler/Marion allowed Dallas to play extraordinarily diverse team defense while not interrupting the flow of ball movement on the offensive end. We are not close to this.
Last edited by pgardn; 06-23-2011 at 08:36 AM.
Spurs aren't trading Neal and Splitter.
Watch, spurs are gonna dump Tiago to help dump RJ.
They are if they wanna get rid of Richard Jefferson.
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