Dirk's NBA Finals MVP trophy says "hahahahahaha....whatever"
only in the mind of delusional spurfan can one guy average 23/11/3 and the other guy average 15/10/2.5 in the playoffs, but they're "equal" in terms of who the best player on the team is.
Once the Spurs started winning les, Tim Duncan was the undisputed best player on the team, unless you find some way to rewrite history and change Duncan's stat lines.
With that logic, ppl who say "Dirk is the first star to win a le without a clear #2 next to him since Duncan in 03" is bunk, because Tony Parker was averaging a David Robinson-esque 15 points a game. Clearly he was equal in production to Duncan and a co-leader of that 03 championship squad.
all you obese s start foaming salsa at the mouth when anybody tries to say Duncan wasn't the clear cut leader on all 4 le teams. Now you fat s are pretending he was split with D-Rob for two of them just so you can put down Dirk
classic / / logic going on in here
tbh just like how Duncan is conveniently a center or a power forward depending on the argument they're trying to win.
the irony in this statement
rebounds, blocks, and steals are "empty stats" while points from jump shots aren't?
Robinson carried his team on BOTH ends of the floor. He guarded the best post player and was still expected to stay out of foul trouble long enough to lead the team in scoring, despite taking a beating on drives to the rim and dunks. He beats out Dirk in every category except PPG, 3pT, and FT%. Robinson destroys him in rebounds, steals, and blocks, not to mention FG%. Assists are basically a wash.
When has Dirk ever been asked to guard the best low post scorer on a consistent basis? Easy to make a living off of scoring when the majority of your points come from non-contact jumpers or free throws from shooting fouls on the perimeter. Empty stats indeed...
how far did he "carry" his team?
rebounds, blocks, and steals are "empty stats" while points from jump shots aren't?
Robinson carried his team on BOTH ends of the floor. He guarded the best post player and was still expected to stay out of foul trouble long enough to lead the team in scoring, despite taking a beating on drives to the rim and dunks. He beats out Dirk in every category except PPG, 3pT, and FT%. Robinson destroys him in rebounds, steals, and blocks, not to mention FG%. Assists are basically a wash.
When has Dirk ever been asked to guard the best low post scorer on a consistent basis? Easy to make a living off of scoring when the majority of your points come from non-contact jumpers or free throws from shooting fouls on the perimeter. Empty stats indeed...
David Robinson didn't carry his team to . Duncan was the leader of every single championship SA has. I think it's funny tho how different these spurfan arguments would be if this thread was Dirk vs Duncan.
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It's not just his 7.3 ppg and 5.9 rpg that carried the Spurs in 03, it was D-Rob's uncanny leadership capabilities that cannot be quantified.
that bit of nut huggery was nicely executed.
all you obese s start foaming salsa at the mouth when anybody tries to say Duncan wasn't the clear cut leader on all 4 le teams. Now you fat s are pretending he was split with D-Rob for two of them just so you can put down Dirk
classic / / logic going on in here
To being Hakeem Olajuwon's rag tbh
To me, D-Rob was the spiritual leader of the 03' team, but they would have won that le (and probably the 99' one as well) with my mom opposite Duncan
imo, Dirk and D-Rob shouldn't even be compared... Apples and Oranges
Comparing David's offense to Tony Freakin Allen? Come on...
David Robinson - 21.1 PPG
Tony Allen - 7.5
And the defense isn't close either..let's not go there.
Well, seems you have a short memory... Btw, I'm not about the result. Dirk has had another one though vs the Kings back in 2003. In total 2, the same amount as Robinson.
Last edited by Sportstudi; 07-28-2011 at 07:07 AM.
Dirk > Robinson
Dirk dominated three of the best players in the NBA, in their prime, on his way to a le. The Admiral rode Duncan's ass while being nothing more than Shaq's punching bag. The End.
HAHAHAHAHAHA TAKE DAT WIT CHEW Dunc n Dave!!!
Don't get butt hurt Spurs fans. Duncan is a top 10 player all-time. David Robinson didn't have the mental edge he needed to be the #1 guy. Dirk does, Dirk's proved it. In the pantheon of the greatest players of all-time Dirk is a number of spots ahead of David Robinson b/c Dirk didn't need a top ten player alongside him to get the job done.
So according to your logic that would rank Dirk ahead of Kobe Bryant and Shaq then? I see.... They should have let you make the 50 All time greatest players list, it would have been so much easier
So according to your logic that would rank Dirk ahead of Kobe Bryant and Shaq then? I see.... They should have let you make the 50 All time greatest players list, it would have been so much easier
Bull, both Kobe and Shaq won rings as the unquestioned #1. David couldn't and didn't. Plus Kobe and Shaq have 5 & 4 respectively. Sorry, David is a great player, but you can't win with him as your best player. That has been proven and will NEVER CHANGE. Dirk was the unquestioned #1 and he won a championship w/o a clear cut #2 that would be ranked in the top 50 of current NBA players.
End the thread
First you said Dirk won without another Top 10 player and that alone is what made him better. Then you move the goal posts by saying "well both Shaq and Kobe won as the unquestioned #1 option."
Are you saying Kobe wasn't a Top 10 player during the Laker 3peat? Or that Shaq was the "unquestioned leader" the Heat championship team? You know the one that cancelled the parade in '06?
I am saying that Dirk won as an unquestioned #1 when all you muther ers talked all that that he couldn't. However, David Robinson never won a le where he was the unquestioned #1. David Robinson is what everyone here thought Dirk was.
So I guess you could say the same about Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, and Clyde Drexler then? Because they couldn't "win" as the clear cut #1 either, right? Oh wait... I forgot... they were at their best when Micheal Jordan was destroying everything in his path for 6 championships in 8 years.
Dirk would have met the same fate as the guys mentioned above playing in the 90's.
/end thread
OK, so you agree you moved the goal posts then. Thanks!
Dirk > Davey
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