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  1. #76
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    OK, so you agree you moved the goal posts then. Thanks!

    Sure, if that makes you feel better about Dirk being a champion and unquestioned best player on a championship team, while David couldn't nutt-up as a unquestioned #1. Sure.

  2. #77
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    So I guess you could say the same about Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, and Clyde Drexler then? Because they couldn't "win" as the clear cut #1 either, right? Oh wait... I forgot... they were at their best when Micheal Jordan was destroying everything in his path for 6 championships in 8 years.

    Dirk would have met the same fate as the guys mentioned above playing in the 90's.

    /end thread
    the one problem here being that David never played Mike in the finals like the guys mentioned above.

  3. #78
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    Sure, if that makes you feel better about Dirk being a champion and unquestioned best player on a championship team, while David couldn't nutt-up as a unquestioned #1. Sure.
    Your capitulation is duly noted...

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    not going to argue with you because this is just going to somehow turn into you crying about how much you hate kobe
    or because you have no grounds.

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    or because you have no grounds.
    only grounds that matter:

    dirk as #1 -

    robinson as #1 - never sniffed the finals

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    Duncan was the 1st option in '99 and Robinson was his sidekick. You're revising history saying otherwise.

    '95 Olajuwon 's at how much Spurfan raves about David "The tinman" Robinson's defense.
    And of course Hakeem got 33pg vs. a Horace Grant and Shaq double team vs. 35ppg vs. a Robinson single team.

    As for accolades, check all-D teams, all-NBA teams, DPoY.

    And Robinson accomplished much of that prior to his injury. Though no fault's of Dirk, it speaks to how Robinson dominated the time.

    And yes, 99 was Duncan's team, Robinson was clearly a sidekick. That said, I am not sure how you can equate a supporting cast of Avery Johnson, Dennis Rodman, Sean Elliott and Vinny Del Negro to Jason Kidd, Jason Terry, Shawn Marion and Tyson Chandler.

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    only grounds that matter:

    dirk as #1 -

    robinson as #1 - never sniffed the finals
    Since when did the NBA turned into a 1 on 1 tournament? I must have missed it.

  8. #83
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    He'd accept the fact he can't defend the dream as the true teammate he is. Robinson was more concerned with Rodman's lack of faith in Jeebus than he was beating the Rockets, and Rodman was having none of it.
    And faith impacts basketball how?

  9. #84
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    Dirk also has the ability to not be a and just sign a kid's damn autograph, that way it doesn't come back to bite him in the ass a decade later when the little kid grows up to be Shaquille O'Neal, and the only way to save face is to pad your stats in one game against the Clippers.
    You must have missed the part where it was exposed as a lie. As in Shaq saying Robinson refused to sign an autograph for him when Shaq attended high school in San Antonio was impossible because Shaq was already out in LSU when Robinson started playing for the Spurs.

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    It proves Robinson isn't the all world defender Spurfan claims he is, no one is making Dirk out to be an elite defender.. Even the 1995 Suns did a better job defending Hakeem than Robinson.
    1 series proved the career of a player, I see.

    I guess Game 3 of the 06 Finals proved Dirk can't shoot FTs.

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    Dennis Johnson = Chauncey Billups > John Stockton tbh, because those two carried their teams to championships, tbh.

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    1 series proved the career of a player, I see.

    I guess Game 3 of the 06 Finals proved Dirk can't shoot FTs.
    Tbh he shot 10/12 in that game

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    Dennis Johnson = Chauncey Billups > John Stockton tbh, because those two carried their teams to championships, tbh.
    correct tbh

    i smell asshurt from a certain gorrila avatar poster

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    Has Dirk ever had a 20pt-20reb game in the playoffs? Didn't think so....
    Well, seems you have a short memory... Btw, I'm not about the result. Dirk has had another one though vs the Kings back in 2003. In total 2, the same amount as Robinson.
    Dunc should have been forced to leave after this.

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    Well, seems you have a short memory... Btw, I'm not about the result. Dirk has had another one though vs the Kings back in 2003. In total 2, the same amount as Robinson.
    all these spurfans are asking question like "oh did Dirk make a high SAT score?" or "oh is Dirk a jesus freak?" and this guy asks a question and gets a fresh layed on his face.

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    fish and 4mvp, running the option, and they don't know how to contain it.

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    i'm sorry, but dirk has benefitted with having no athletic 7 footers to challenge his lenght. If anything, if Dirk met robinson in his prime. Robinson would have to go to confession for turning a man into a boy.

    Robinson > Dirk.

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    i'm sorry, but dirk has benefitted with having no athletic 7 footers to challenge his lenght. If anything, if Dirk met robinson in his prime. Robinson would have to go to confession for turning a man into a boy.

    Robinson > Dirk.

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    lol... The mavs won in spite of dirk the last game. Bro, don't even. Btw. Dirk's supporting cast >>>>> robinson's pre duncan

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    correct tbh

    i smell asshurt from a certain gorrila avatar poster
    I have no problems with someone who says Chauncey Billups > John Stockton saying Dirk > Robinson, tbh.

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    Tbh he shot 10/12 in that game
    He was 0/2 when it counts, tbh.

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    i'm sorry, but dirk has benefitted with having no athletic 7 footers to challenge his lenght. If anything, if Dirk met robinson in his prime. Robinson would have to go to confession for turning a man into a boy.

    Robinson > Dirk.
    What a duchebag you are. There are a ton more athletic bigs in the NBA then when Robinson played. Robinson is a gentle flower het got knocked cold by Karl Malone. Dirk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robinson


    He's got the NBA Finals MVP to prove it, .


    Maybe you should reflect on all the you and the Spurs fans talked before this past June, like Dirk is:


    Its called: Reflection

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    He was 0/2 when it counts, tbh.
    Where's D-Rob's NBA Finals MVP trophy? Show it to me?

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    In other news, Russell > Jordan and Magic combined, because Russell won 11 as the lead guy, and Jordan only won 6 as the undisputed #1 and Magic only 3.

    Pau Pierce = Dirk = Wade = Billups = Dennis Johnson = Moses Malone = Bill Walton = Rick Barry > Dr. J = Barkley = Malone = Robinson = Uwe Blab = casual fan = Nash based on mav fan logic.

    At the same time:
    Duncan > Hakeem (I thought mav fans were arguing against this ...????)

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