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    What is wrong with our State department. Not long after I said Hillary was doing a good job, she pulls this BS.

    Or... Is Obama pulling the strings, and Libya is one of the 57 states he hasn't visited yet?


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    Hilary is neo-con war-lover, oil/gascos will take good care of her.

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    I started looking things up that i didn't before. Remeber the July 6 announcement that rebels have taken the village of Qawalish? What a joke. It's so small, and it took 6 hrs for the rebels to take it? I'll bet they were fighting the villagers as well!

    I think Qawalish is the closest settlement to the NE of where Google Maps places it. If someone can show me for sure where it is, I would appreciate it.

    In a news report:

    July 6 Rebels seized control of the village of Qawalish in the mountains, extending their hold in western Libya and inching toward a supply route to the capital that they hope to sever.
    July 12 Rebels in the mountains in Libya’s west looted and damaged four towns seized in June, part of a series of abuses and apparent reprisals against suspected loyalists that have chased residents of these towns away, Human Rights Watch said. In Paris, lawmakers reauthorized France’s participation in the NATO-led bombing campaign, while French officials said they were increasingly optimistic about the possibility of a negotiated end to the conflict.
    Aren't these guys being supported because of Gaddhafi being abusive?

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    Aren't these guys being supported because of Gaddhafi being abusive?
    Rebels being s bags doesn't absolve Gaddhafi from being a POS murderer.

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    I'm pretty sure US soldiers have done some shady overseas. Does that make US forces all bad?

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    I'm pretty sure US soldiers have done some shady overseas. Does that make US forces all bad?
    Some few have, but this is ridiculous.

    Maybe if I didn't already believe the rebels were worse than Gaddafi, I could cut them some slack.

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    yeah, Libya discovered this fossil aquifer under the Sahara a few years ago. They'll suck it dry like the US farmers are sucking dry the huge Ogallala fossil water, another lucky US natural resource right under the US breadbasket topsoil many feet thick (which has also been depleted and eroded). and then what for Libya? unsustainable.

    Anyway, it's probably hard to verify whether Pravada is a truth teller due to verification of the water site being in a war zone.

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    I couldn't find any corroborating reports last night.

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    I liked the Eurovision songs that "reporter" wrote.

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    That was pretty bizarre.

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    The story could very well be true. after all, the NATO involvement is unscrupulous to begin with. What will they do for an Encore, and how far will Libya's HDI drop when this is over?

    If there was a valid reason to aid the rebels, the HDI should go up when this is over. Not down, and I'll bet it will do down, and possible never regain their "high" HDI rating.

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    Why does everyone believe everything Putin and Pravda says now?

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    Nato attacks broadcasters in Libya:

    NATO Targets State TV in Libya

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    If there was a valid reason to aid the rebels, the HDI should go up when this is over. Not down, and I'll bet it will do down, and possible never regain their "high" HDI rating.
    Ever the betting man. Does anyone ever take you up on the weird proposition bets you come up with?

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    Btw, did you bet on days, not weeks?

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    Why does everyone believe everything Putin and Pravda says now?
    I don't find it believable. I'm still kind of weirded out by it.

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    Water Pipelines

    If the accounts of NATO bombing this pipeline is real, then someone in NATO should be charged with war crimes.

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    Why do you believe Pravda, WC?

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    after all, the NATO involvement is unscrupulous to begin with
    I wouldn't put it quite that way. NATO involvement in Libya is essentially is the war effort of the USA. It has prolonged and worsened the humanitarian agony it meant to prevent, and we've ended by taking sides in a civil war, which we swore not to do at the beginning.

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    Why do you believe Pravda, WC?
    No without verifying, but I have said all along, something was wrong with this attack.


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    So you basically believe all state funded Russian media.

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    Long story short, we've got our s caught in another crack. Libya could be a expensive.

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    I couldn't find any corroborating reports last night.
    Rebels Say Qaddafi Must Face Trial as Airstrikes Hit Tripoli:

    NATO planes struck a factory near the embattled oil city of Brega on Friday killing six guards, Libyan officials said.

    The plant, located six miles south of the strategic oil installation, builds the huge pipes that carry water from underground aquifers deep in the south to the coast as part of the Great Man Made River irrigation project.

    "Major parts of the plant have been damaged," said Abdel-Hakim el-Shwehdy, head of the company running the project. "There could be major setback for the future projects."

    At least 70 percent of Libyans survive on the water carried through the pipes to the coast in the project, according to government figures.

    "Most Libyans drink from the Great Manmade River, most Libyan land is farmed from the water, so any harm against this vital project is a harm aginst all Libyans," warned government spokesman Moussa Ibrahim. "We believe this a very dangerous development in NATO'S attacks."

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07...#ixzz1Tr7zxGNB

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