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    The rebels are worse than Gaddafi. Mark my words for future reference.
    what is your evidence of this?

    Pravda?

    Russia Today?

    Glenn Beck?

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    Where did I do that?

    Show me a quote.
    You pounced on me when I pointed out that the devil we knew may end up being better than the devil we don't.

    I could see years of killing and score settling before the dust settles.

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    The rebels are worse than Gaddafi. Mark my words for future reference.
    The US is following a UN mandate. What the 'rebels' do with their country is their business.

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    You pounced on me when I pointed out that the devil we knew may end up being better than the devil we don't.
    So I didn't do what you said at all.

    Thanks.

    I could see years of killing and score settling before the dust settles.
    When did you start caring so much about the lives of Arab Muslims?

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    +1.

    At first, people were ing about this as Iraq/Afghanistan part 2, especially when the rebels initially seemed weak/disorganized. Now, after what was essentially an air-mission/missle campaign removed a dictator of some 40+ years to give space for the Libyan people to democratically choose which form of government they want, the complaint now becomes Ghadafi wasn't such a bad guy?
    1st page:

    As long as we don't get involved in ground missions, I really have no problem with a no-fly zone... same as Bush Sr did in Iraq.

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    I had CC, Manny, WH, and MarcusBanks in mind, scro ...

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    So I didn't do what you said at all.

    Thanks.
    And I didn't do what you said at all.

    Thanks


    When did you start caring so much about the lives of Arab Muslims?
    I will care a of a lot if Ghadafi gets replaced by a Muslim theocracy and we get sucked even deeper into that black hole militarily.

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    I will care a of a lot if Ghadafi gets replaced by a Muslim theocracy and we get sucked even deeper into that black hole militarily.
    If it's not a genocide Muslim theocracy and that's what the people want, what's the problem?

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    lol we support democracy so long as the people choose the leaders we want

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    And I didn't do what you said at all.

    Thanks
    You absolutely became an apologist for Ghadafi. Do you want a link and quote?

    I will care a of a lot if Ghadafi gets replaced by a Muslim theocracy and we get sucked even deeper into that black hole militarily.
    What is your evidence this will happen?

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    You absolutely became an apologist for Ghadafi. Do you want a link and quote?

    What is your evidence this will happen?
    You can be such a chump sometimes.

    I pointed out that Ghadafi used the oil revenue to do a lot of good things for his people.

    That is a FACT

    Do your homework CHUMP.

    In many ways Ghadafi was delivering exactly what the Democrats want to do in the US.

    I can list them but maybe you should try to educate yourself instead of kneejerk attacking me.

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    gonna replace ghadafi with more puppets for the west to control

    the puppets who end up putting their family and relatives in high positions without any credentials, oh wait this is just the same like south vietnam, east timor, afghanistan...all of which are doom to fail...then you see each mofo gettin killed one by one...same nothing new here..

    lol arab spring putting s as puppets for leadership just like the previous regime, nothing new here...more imcompetant fcks running the country and ruining the country....

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    You can be such a chump sometimes.

    I pointed out that Ghadafi used the oil revenue to do a lot of good things for his people.

    That is a FACT

    Do your homework CHUMP.

    In many ways Ghadafi was delivering exactly what the Democrats want to do in the US.

    I can list them but maybe you should try to educate yourself instead of kneejerk attacking me.
    I called you an apologist for Ghadafi.

    Your response?

    Another apologist post.

    lol attack

    And you didn't provide any evidence Ghadafi gets replaced by a Muslim theocracy and we get sucked even deeper into that black hole militarily. That did not go unnoticed.

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    lol ground invasion
    lol another iraq/afghanistan
    Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

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    I called you an apologist for Ghadafi.

    Your response?

    Another apologist post.

    lol attack

    And you didn't provide any evidence Ghadafi gets replaced by a Muslim theocracy and we get sucked even deeper into that black hole militarily. That did not go unnoticed.

    you. I'm not apologizing for Ghadafi. He had the same goals as Obama he just got his done. Well, for 41 years, anyway.

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    Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
    Were ground troops needed to remove Ghadafi from power? Do you believe that he (Ghadafi) still controls the country?

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    you. I'm not apologizing for Ghadafi. He had the same goals as Obama he just got his done. Well, for 41 years, anyway.
    Wow.

    Just wow.

    I'm just going to chalk this up to your being upset.

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    Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
    I have to agree. It's going to be a very uncertain time if Ghadafi is overthrown. I'm not sure if Islamic fundamentalism is as big a threat to a democratic movement there as is the tribalism that gave rise to and kept Ghadafi in power in the first place.

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    Were ground troops needed to remove Ghadafi from power? Do you believe that he (Ghadafi) still controls the country?
    Is Qaddafi out of the picture or the war over?

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    Is Qaddafi out of the picture or the war over?
    Given the reports of his leaving the country from earlier today, I would say that he is out of the picture.

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    what is your evidence of this?

    Pravda?

    Russia Today?

    Glenn Beck?
    Take my prediction as is. That's why I said what I did. Just remember I said this, when the future shows me correct. I have stated my reasons for this belief throughout this thread and a few others.

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    Wow.

    Just wow.

    I'm just going to chalk this up to your being upset.

    Upset? Gadhafi nationalized the evil oil companies and used the money to:

    increase literacy from 10% to 90%

    Libya has a lower hunger rate than the United States (2%)

    Education from grade school through to college was free in Libya.

    Healthcare is free and Libyan pharmacies and hospitals are comparable to high-quality European facilities.

    Libya ranks No. 53 on the United Nations Index of Human Development.

    Libya has by far the highest standard of living in Africa.

    In 1969 before Qaddafi it was the lowest in the world at just $60 per year income

    Libya gives free land and seeds to anyone who wants to farm that land.

    There is virtually no homelessness in Libya as everyone is given a home.

    Women in Libya have equal rights, not only as a philosophy, but in practice.

    Under Gaddafi’s oil-revenue-sharing program, each Libyan gets $500 (Dollars) deposited into his or her bank account each month.

    For any medical care, operations, or health treatments that are unavailable in Libya, the citizen is given full expenses for travel, treatment and accommodation abroad to wherever is required for the treatment to be given.

    On marriage, each couple was gifted $60,000 to do with as they please; furnish their home, take a holiday, honeymoon, buy car, etc.

    Now THATS "Change you can believe in!"

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    Take my prediction as is. That's why I said what I did. Just remember I said this, when the future shows me correct. I have stated my reasons for this belief throughout this thread and a few others.
    You say that a lot when you can't actually say anything.

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    If it's not a genocide Muslim theocracy and that's what the people want, what's the problem?
    Do you really believe the population as a whole wants this?

    Really...

    The people who did have a "high" HDI index, had the best standard of living of all African nations, and was completely self sufficient... until this war...

    Do you really believe that?

    I call it propaganda.

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    Upset? Gadhafi nationalized the evil oil companies and used the money to:

    increase literacy from 10% to 90%

    Libya has a lower hunger rate than the United States (2%)

    Education from grade school through to college was free in Libya.

    Healthcare is free and Libyan pharmacies and hospitals are comparable to high-quality European facilities.

    Libya ranks No. 53 on the United Nations Index of Human Development.

    Libya has by far the highest standard of living in Africa.

    In 1969 before Qaddafi it was the lowest in the world at just $60 per year income

    Libya gives free land and seeds to anyone who wants to farm that land.

    There is virtually no homelessness in Libya as everyone is given a home.

    Women in Libya have equal rights, not only as a philosophy, but in practice.

    Under Gaddafi’s oil-revenue-sharing program, each Libyan gets $500 (Dollars) deposited into his or her bank account each month.

    For any medical care, operations, or health treatments that are unavailable in Libya, the citizen is given full expenses for travel, treatment and accommodation abroad to wherever is required for the treatment to be given.

    On marriage, each couple was gifted $60,000 to do with as they please; furnish their home, take a holiday, honeymoon, buy car, etc.

    Now THATS "Change you can believe in!"
    I never thought you would put the kneepads on for an Arab dictator, CC.

    You're an apologist and somehow, you're angry about it.

    How about you give a link to that list you pasted above?

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