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pretty much agree. The arab countries will go from military oppresive goverments to corrupt weak goverments (like most of the South American ones)
It's still an improvement IMO. They'll go from poor and oppressed to poor and free.
Libya, like Iraq and Aghanistan, will be a bloody, corrupt, civil-warring mess for decades after the initial "victory". All 3 countries lack stable, experienced ins utions to serve as infrastructure for civil society.
pretty much agree. The arab countries will go from military oppresive goverments to corrupt weak goverments (like most of the South American ones)
It's still an improvement IMO. They'll go from poor and oppressed to poor and free.
Remains to be seen.
They might not end up free. But they're getting what they think they want. And that's an improvement.
I think you could look back at least three U.S. presidential elections and debate whether or not getting what you think you want is an improvement.
That being said, I hope it works out for them.
likely the new goverments will support most of the basic freedoms (at least that is the plan):
(1) life, liberty, and property
(2) freedom of speech and press
(3) right to trial by jury
(4) freedom to travel
(5) freedom of religion
(6) freedom to educate your children as you see fit
(7) right to own and run your own business
(8) right to defend yourself including the right to own guns
(9) right not to be spied on by government
(10) right to vote
way improved over the oppresive goverments which supported none
yeah it will still be a hole but at least you can own a gun and talk about your goverment like any "free" american.
It's a great plan. Worked like a charm in Iraq.
can't really compare a citizen led revolution to an american military invasion and "reconstruction".It's a great plan. Worked like a charm in Iraq.
still can't compare. apples to oranges.
it's actually like trying to make a salad with green tomatoes vs. ripe tomatoes.
Like I said earlier, I hope it works out.
that's why i supported the air support from the beginning. the rebels had an emotional investment in bettering the country, they led the revolution. Iraq was different.
from what i've read on him via wiki, i like the leader (Mahmoud Jibil) of the transitional council. he's not just a puppet for western powers.
from wiki:
Jibril declared, "Today, all Libya's people are allowed to participate in the building of the future to build ins utions with the aid of a cons ution that does not differentiate between a man and a woman, sects or ethnicities. Libya is for everyone and will now be for everyone. Libya has the right to create an example that will be followed in the Arab region."
Link?
Or is that what Fox "news" told you to believe about the situation?
or maybe you actually believed Ghadaffi's propaganda?
Do tell.
Exactly.
Any comparison to Iraq is purely specious. A popular uprising against a dictator supported by air strikes vs. an active invasion and occupation by a foreign army deposing a dictator
LOL conservatives that don't want to treat the Libyans like grown ups who can and should make their own choices.
3/19/11:
Fox news is anti-war now..
This is pretty tight
Road trip! American student joins rebels in fight for Qaddafi stronghold
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world...afi-stronghold
At the time of voting people certainly thought so. The aftermath is always a different story. The thing with 'change' is that at least there's the 'hope' you'll get better. If you stay with the sandwich, you know that's all you're getting.
I think it's pretty stupid.This is pretty tight
Road trip! American student joins rebels in fight for Qaddafi stronghold
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world...afi-stronghold
The OP is pretty stupid too
So you want a medal for predicting that a developing country with no civic ins utions to speak of will have some difficulties after getting rid of a dictator and his cronies who have held power for 40 years? Really?
Now that Ghadafi is gone, and the country moves towards democracy, should we support it?
Since there is a new government, and essentially now the roles are switched, do we support a new government in surpressing the rebels following Ghadafi?
Do tell.
"rights to defend itself against enemies, foreign and domestic"
Didn't know Lybia was using the United States Oath of Allegiance as the law of their land, tbh...
Do they recite the whole thing?
"I will support and defend the Cons ution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic"
No...So you want a medal for predicting that a developing country with no civic ins utions to speak of will have some difficulties after getting rid of a dictator and his cronies who have held power for 40 years? Really?
Just wait a few years to see if I'm right.
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