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    I'm at Overlook PKWY in North SA at the Regency APTs and looking out on my balcony I can see a allot of smoke that looks to be getting a little bigger. in the south western direction direction that has been going the past hour. I already reported it and I hope they can get it under control pretty quickly.

    Here we go again, stay safe everyone!
    Yea I just picked up my kid at school and saw that also. Looks like maybe the Camp Bullis fire sparked back up....

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    I am on the 10th story of a building near 10 and callaghan and I can see it... That thing is getting pretty big.

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    Everyone get out the mangerra!!

    Does anyone know how exactly they fight these fires? Do they just water it at the source or do they water a bit ahead of the path. I understand the embers and all that but I'd think it'd be more of a proactive approach as opposed to a reactive approach.

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    They just said they will be cutting power to about 4,000 people in the Fair Oaks Ranch/Leon Springs area during this Camp Bullis fire.

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    since I last posted that column has doubled in thickness! WTF!

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    Everyone get out the mangerra!!

    Does anyone know how exactly they fight these fires? Do they just water it at the source or do they water a bit ahead of the path. I understand the embers and all that but I'd think it'd be more of a proactive approach as opposed to a reactive approach.
    They probably handle them depending on the conditions (wind force, proximity to civilization); I know the infamous "Stone Oak Fire of 2011" was allowed to burn itself out and their actions concentrated on preventing the spread by watering the areas around the fire. Then when there were no more active flames they doused the whole thing with water from helicopters.

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    They also are saying any homes west of Ralph Fair Rd & Elk Deitz need to evacuate immediately.

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    Well yeah, I understand there's many variables for every grass/wildfire but still I'd think a more proactive approach would/should be the norm. That obviously wasn't done at Camp Bullis. Hence the question

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    They also are saying any homes west of Ralph Fair Rd & Elk Deitz need to evacuate immediately.
    How far would that be from the actual fire?

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    Everyone get out the mangerra!!

    Does anyone know how exactly they fight these fires? Do they just water it at the source or do they water a bit ahead of the path. I understand the embers and all that but I'd think it'd be more of a proactive approach as opposed to a reactive approach.
    This liink will explain. http://science.howstuffworks.com/nat...s/wildfire.htm

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    Here is the link to KSAT. They have a banner near the top to look at a live feed.
    http://www.ksat.com/news/index.html

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    Well yeah, I understand there's many variables for every grass/wildfire but still I'd think a more proactive approach would/should be the norm. That obviously wasn't done at Camp Bullis. Hence the question
    No that's exactly how it was done. It's just almost impossible to make 30,000 acres 100% fire proof. Keeping it mowed back and constantly lecturing people about brush fire danger are about the only preventive measures that can be taken really.

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    One thing that makes the Camp Bullis fire extremely high priority is the possibility of ammunition bunkers at Camp Bullis. For this reason they are fighting it more from the air according to the news.

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    Is the ammo stored horizontally?

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    No that's exactly how it was done. It's just almost impossible to make 30,000 acres 100% fire proof. Keeping it mowed back and constantly lecturing people about brush fire danger are about the only preventive measures that can be taken really.
    I know where we live there is an empty lot between our home & one of our neighbors (they bought 2 lots). Earlier this year they went about chopping down 80% of the trees. They chopped it up, stacked it very neatly & then just friggin left all those piles there for the last 8 months. I just pray a fire isn't started there. If it does, then we're toast. The only fire preventive Texans can hope for is common sense, which is obviously lacking in this case.

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    Is the ammo stored horizontally?

    Here's the article. http://www.ksat.com/news/29109916/detail.html

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    Is the ammo stored horizontally?
    I would imagine it's because the firefighters on the ground can't get too close or they risk being involved in an explosion. I would think choppers can do their job from further away.

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    No that's exactly how it was done. It's just almost impossible to make 30,000 acres 100% fire proof. Keeping it mowed back and constantly lecturing people about brush fire danger are about the only preventive measures that can be taken really.
    I guess allllll that depends on what actually started back up again and why.

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    Everyone get out the mangerra!!

    Does anyone know how exactly they fight these fires? Do they just water it at the source or do they water a bit ahead of the path. I understand the embers and all that but I'd think it'd be more of a proactive approach as opposed to a reactive approach.
    My understanding for what they did around is here is the first order of action is containment. You basically try to build a perimeter the fire cannot spread out of around it and then you can extinguish it.

    Here they used a variety of methods to do that from bulldozing and building fire lines as well as burning areas of growth to create zones the larger uncontrolled fire cannot expand through.

    The areas that took first priority here were those where homes were directly in danger or buildings of some sort were in danger. They also made efforts to keep our local fires out of watersheds and sacred native lands as much as possible here. For the most part I don't think you see all that much direct fighting on a fire when its raging out of control as the ones in Texas have been over the past few days.

    I'm sure this is incomplete but it should give you an idea of how they handle the situation.

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    I'm not sure what the fuel loads are within that brush/forest around Camp Bullis but I can promise you that there's more of it because it hasn't burned in awhile. A large part of the problem stems from the complete eradication of fire over the last century of forest management which has led to an incredible build up of fuel. That is why many places now have prescribed burns but we don't burn nearly enough to make up for what we stop nature from doing.

    When fuel is readily available and winds pick up with little humidity in the air then there's only so much you can do. I have no idea what happened at Camp Bullis but given the conditions of the area there's no reason to suspect the firefighters did anything wrong based on it flaring back up.

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    Dupe

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    I'm not sure what the fuel loads are within that brush/forest around Camp Bullis but I can promise you that there's more of it because it hasn't burned in awhile. A large part of the problem stems from the complete eradication of fire over the last century of forest management which has led to an incredible build up of fuel. That is why many places now have prescribed burns but we don't burn nearly enough to make up for what we stop nature from doing.

    When fuel is readily available and winds pick up with little humidity in the air then there's only so much you can do. I have no idea what happened at Camp Bullis but given the conditions of the area there's no reason to suspect the firefighters did anything wrong based on it flaring back up.
    yup.

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    I just heard on the news that the fires actually flare back up from root to root contact----the fire is put out on the surface but underneath the soil is so hot the roots actually re-ignite and flare up that way!

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    Normally that won't happen...but....



    Yeah - well, to say the soil is dry is putting it mildly.

    All of you and Rick Perry better sacrifice a goat, pray, or do whatever it is you do for Nate to come up into Texas.

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