You do see the logical fallacy right?
Socialism is taking care of your own. Socialism, in your context, would be the U.S. paying for other countries to have universal health care.
would giving away your patent be socialism?
I agree on your last points but it has to start somewhere, right? That being said I don't expect them to succeed but I understand the motivation and anger.
Is it really hard to figure out. From the CSM hardly a liberal rag:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Electio...-t-made-for-TVIt turns out there are objective reasons the decentralized movement, which is protesting what it says is the undue political influence of major financial firms, has not generated more and better coverage.
I need to start a thread about where people get their information from because by and large I am seeing a bunch of people who have no idea how to research.
We already have a good idea about how Wall Street feels about this
That's called the counter troll tbqh
After three years of Tea Party rallies, NOW all of a sudden you guys expect a consistent and central theme to protest rallies?
How expectations change...
These guys aren't dressing up patriotically though. At least we knew the Tea Party loved Merica
So we went from "What are their protesting?" to "What they expect to get out of it?". That's progress, I guess.
I'm sure some politico will try to capitalize on them at some point or another, and maybe they'll get something back. The thing with politicos is that when votes are short, they aim to please. Not necessarily come through once elected, but doesn't hurt trying, right?
Youre already seeing that with the unions, some are as dirty as corporations
I'll bet most of you don't even know what they are actually demanding.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/propos...all-st-moveme/
A $20.00 minimum wage?? (part of demand 1)
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live. We have that now, they want to make illegal immigration legal.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment. They want to increase welfare? This will make it worse, you have a choice of working or not and you still can get money to live, this is not a good idea.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment. Isn't there an amendment to the cons ution already (1960's)?
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. I could buy a million dollar house and not have to pay it back? Hot damn. I wouldn't have to pay back my car loan, or credit cards? This will make matters much, much worse.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies. Demands 11 and 12 mean you can just be given everything, no matter what.
Demand four: Free college education. So, professors don't get paid? That'll go over well.
Are we talking about the tea party or the NYC protestors?
A bunch of angry ideologues who don't share ordinary people's concerns.
A forum post? Thats like saying that the posted on here comes straight from the Spurs.
Truth is, the vast majority of them don't know what their protesting.
Truth is a LOT of you have to make up like this. How do you know what the "vast majority" of them are thinking? You must have a device that lets you know what people are thinking, Yoni. You showed that in the Jobs thread as well.
While this place is hardly ever a venue for reasonable discussion, it can always be depended upon to provide heaps of unintentional irony.
I would not put it past some conservative activist to post something like this to deliberately make propaganda out of.
Did you leave out the part out about it not being an official list on purpose?
What the does it matter if someone majors in something simply to attract an employer or not? Truth be told, the student makes a choice to take the loans, but even with all the best credentials - unless your parents know someone or groom your ass to be a boy scout, good ass jobs are not within the reach of 70% of college grads. And by good ass job, I mean something that can pay rent/mortgage, utilities, car, car insurance, health insurance, and student loans from month to month. It seems a lot of the Tea Party crowd has hostility toward college students, which sucks but whatever.
Poor little kid. Should have majored in something employers actually wanted.
Of course the kids out there don't know wtf they are protesting, that is also true. It's spontaneous, but now it's growing virally and starting to get organized. I have 100x more faith that this movement will have a more positive affect that anything the Tea Party ever did...which was simply go to voting booths to replace one crook with another.
elections - what good and honest person wants to be involved in politics at a time like this? lol voting
As with most large protest rallies, a variety of different people are there for a variety of different reasons.
They are not ideologically monolithic, and the idea that a protest like this SHOULD be composed of identically-minded people with a single central message or goal is a ludicrous talking point peddled to fools.
So, what is their aim in protesting?
What are they protesting, Manny?
Read the thread, dumbass. I've already answered that question.
There is going to be an "occupy San Antonio" protest at Travis Park today. The organizer was interviewed on the radio this morning and asked what they were protesting. To paraphrase, He said we don't have anything specific...that is what is so unique about us...we are all individuals protesting our own thing...
Well, the NYC protests have a very real goal as we've seen. I can't speak to any of the others.
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