Dear Aaron Rodgers

[Pelicans78]

Yes, it's Peyton's fault that Reggie Wayne suddenly forgot how to run a simple curl route, much less shield off the defender from being able to make an interception.

Porter knew that play was coming. He knew from the formation what the Colts were running. That's why he jumped on it and scored easily.

[Pelicans78]

I agree with how going all pass happy hasn't worked with the Pats. Why? It's hard to say but I still believe that a team needs to run the ball effectively to complete offensively.

a guy you yourself have said is nothing but a choker while in his prime, you say you would take him as a QB before a guy who has almost singlehandedly kept his team in contention on a yearly basis including winning a championship, despite being surrounded by loads of on a yearly basis.

Piggybacking might have been a strong word for me to use, but lets not kid ourselves... the strongest part of those Patriots team were the incredibly smart and cohesive defensive unit, not Tom Brady. He did a great job, and stepped up when they needed him most (especially in the SB against the Panthers as IM said), but he was not a guy that could consistently put the team on his back, as he has become more of in the past 4-5 years. And now that he is the clear star and leader of the team, what have they done? Nothing but the biggest chokejob of all time (lol eli), and some wildcard/divisional round flameouts.

If he was so much better than Peyton, you would think he would have found a way to haul in a ring by now as the leader, or at the very least, be a strong point of the team in some of their losses, as opposed to being one of the weak ones.

Yes, I say they are the two greatest QBs ever, but there is FAR less argument to unquestionably put Brady ahead of Peyton, as opposed to Peyton ahead of Brady.

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Porter knew that play was coming. He knew from the formation what the Colts were running. That's why he jumped on it and scored easily.

He might have, but it doesnt change the fact that had Wayne correctly ran his route, he would have likely been able to still make the catch, or at the very least, prevent the interception. Wayne ran an incredibly poor and lazy route, which is unacceptable when running a timed route, which it clearly was as Peyton threw the ball well before Wayne turned around, and Wayne admitted he was at fault on that play.

[LnGrrrR]

Never said it was Brady's fault, although one would think after this nonsense:



that he would have backed up his talk and scored a few more points.

Especially when having arguably the best passing offense in NFL history.

And if Peyton Manning was the best of all time, the Colts should've been scoring regularly in the 30's in the playoffs, per that logic.

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And if Peyton Manning was the best of all time, the Colts should've been scoring regularly in the 30's in the playoffs, per that logic.

a little tough when you have massively inconsistent receivers, a line, and no run game.

in the last 4 playoff runs for Peyton, the worst QB rating game of his was 87.9 against a dominant Baltimore defense. he's played pretty well overall.

Peyton just cant seem to win with the haters. You want to complain that he only wants to pass all the time and never run, but why the would you want to run if your team struggles to average more than 3 YPC? In his past 6 playoff games, only twice did the Colts average more than 3.5 YPC. One game was in a win against the Jets, the other was in the Superbowl, where Addai broke one 26 yard run, and was complete the rest of the game.

Then to add to it, he calls for more runs than pass attempts last year against the Jets, and they accomplished absolutely NOTHING. Then he consistently found open receivers that would drop passes, but somehow the game is Peyton's fault, and people like you say his selfishness is why they lost. What more can you ask of the guy? He consistently gives his team the very best he can, he simply does not have a good team.

[LnGrrrR]

a little tough when you have massively inconsistent receivers, a line, and no run game.

How often was Manning sacked in the playoffs? What was the ypc average? And as far as inconsistent wide receivers, well, *shrug*.

in the last 4 playoff runs for Peyton, the worst QB rating game of his was 87.9 against a dominant Baltimore defense. he's played pretty well overall.

I think Manning has played MUCH better since they overcame their ghosts in the 2006 AFC win. Before that, I think he was a choker.

Peyton just cant seem to win with the haters. You want to complain that he only wants to pass all the time and never run, but why the would you want to run if your team struggles to average more than 3 YPC? In his past 6 playoff games, only twice did the Colts average more than 3.5 YPC.

Good fact here, and it works in your favor. Kudos.

Then to add to it, he calls for more runs than pass attempts last year against the Jets, and they accomplished absolutely NOTHING. Then he consistently found open receivers that would drop passes, but somehow the game is Peyton's fault, and people like you say his selfishness is why they lost. What more can you ask of the guy? He consistently gives his team the very best he can, he simply does not have a good team.

I think Peyton Manning is an awesome QB, definitely top 10, maybe even top 5. I just think the notion that because the Colts suck this year that he's obviously the best of all-time is asinine.

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I think Manning has played MUCH better since they overcame their ghosts in the 2006 AFC win. Before that, I think he was a choker.

I don't disagree with this.

I think Peyton Manning is an awesome QB, definitely top 10, maybe even top 5. I just think the notion that because the Colts suck this year that he's obviously the best of all-time is asinine.

I have said before this that I personally consider him the greatest QB of all time. If I was building a team and could pick any player in history, he would be my #1 pick almost certainly. The only other one that I would remotely consider otherwise is Randy Moss, because he brings a threat that no player ever has before. Although if Aaron Rodgers stays on the pace he is on, he could easily find himself in that spot by the end of his career.

But back to Peyton, I just can't see any QB that I would flat out take before him. I don't see any good reasoning why. I know everyone loves Montana, but what exactly does he do so much better than Peyton, or even Brady for that fact? Montana might be the most accomplished QB ever, but I don't see why he would neccesarily be the best. I have a hard time believing that Peyton or Brady in their primes would have been unable to win 3-4 championships with the teams that Montana was blessed with. I think Manning and Brady have less weaknesses than any QB I have ever seen, including Joe.

[LnGrrrR]

But back to Peyton, I just can't see any QB that I would flat out take before him. I don't see any good reasoning why. I know everyone loves Montana, but what exactly does he do so much better than Peyton, or even Brady for that fact? Montana might be the most accomplished QB ever, but I don't see why he would neccesarily be the best. I have a hard time believing that Peyton or Brady in their primes would have been unable to win 3-4 championships with the teams that Montana was blessed with. I think Manning and Brady have less weaknesses than any QB I have ever seen, including Joe.

Hey, fair enough. If you ask me the honest truth, I might take Brady 2004 era over his current monstrous prime. Why? He just seemed luckier then. He pulled wins out of his ass that he had no right pulling out, and he just seemed to have more fire. I see that old Brady occasionally, but not on the consistent level of Brady's early years.

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Hey, fair enough. If you ask me the honest truth, I might take Brady 2004 era over his current monstrous prime. Why? He just seemed luckier then. He pulled wins out of his ass that he had no right pulling out, and he just seemed to have more fire. I see that old Brady occasionally, but not on the consistent level of Brady's early years.

Theres a reason for that. He had a better team in the le years. The defense took a lot of pressure off of him most of the time, and he wasn't relied upon as frequently to put the team on his back and win. Back then, he would just periodically be asked to lead a game winning drive, but these days he pretty much has to carry the whole team the entire game. That's a lot of added pressure, and it makes those late game drives quite a bit tougher to pull off. Why do you think Worthlessburger gets so many of them? He generally doesnt do crap all game long as the defense keeps them in the game, then finally when the end of the game rolls around, his team is down 4, the opposing defense beaten down, and hes only thrown the ball 15-20 times... he will have plenty more left in the tank to help his team march downfield.

[LnGrrrR]

Theres a reason for that. He had a better team in the le years. The defense took a lot of pressure off of him most of the time, and he wasn't relied upon as frequently to put the team on his back and win. Back then, he would just periodically be asked to lead a game winning drive, but these days he pretty much has to carry the whole team the entire game. That's a lot of added pressure, and it makes those late game drives quite a bit tougher to pull off. Why do you think Worthlessburger gets so many of them? He generally doesnt do crap all game long as the defense keeps them in the game, then finally when the end of the game rolls around, his team is down 4, the opposing defense beaten down, and hes only thrown the ball 15-20 times... he will have plenty more left in the tank to help his team march downfield.

True that he had a better team, but he was also just luckier. One time we won a game against the Bills (I believe) when Patten got knocked silly and fumbled, but happened to touch the out-of-bounds line as he fell. Then you have the obvious tuck rule game. Plus there were just so many clutch plays that got made.

Also, I liked the playcalling a bit better back in the day. I miss the screen pases that went for a good 7 or 8 yards, the quick out-hitch, the spectacular play-action pass. The NE offense has become obsessed with the 10-15 short out with the occasional bomb. The only reason it remotely works is due to Brady being a great short-to-mid range passer, and Welker.

Plus, it's hard to separate emotion for me. That 2001 Super Bowl was awesome to me. I was out on my own in the military, 9/11 had us all weirded out, and I had deployment orders to visit GTMO, so it was a tumultuous time for me. The SB win was one of the few bright spots. (Of course, when I got to Cuba I had a great time [and no, I didn't deal with detainees before you ask], but I was nervous about it before I left.)

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

lol stretch acting like Brady is a glorified Trent Dilfer then saying he's the 2nd best QB of all time