Stupidest trade your team has made?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Bend over. I'll in' lock down.

Audit my , !

[Giuseppe]

You act like Kidd was a key part of our success. We failed with Kidd miserably with the lineup Harris did pretty well with. That is the only way you can compare the 2. How they did with similar talent. Thus, that trade didn't do what we wanted. But the Chandler trade was brilliant as well as Marion, Stevenson, and Butler. I don't get the controversy here. Kidd sucked with the same lineup Harris had to work with. I'm not 100% sure we ring with Harris but it looks good on paper.

You don't compare them in the light of your Championship. That event cuts the bridge to the "Harris's & Howard's." It's sad, I admit. I personally thought you couldn't win without those two. I lamented their absence. But, they were in reality part of the problem, not the solution. They failed time & again. Unlike Pop with his Bonner and his RJ--Cuban saw the error of his ways and cut the bridge, and came out on the other side. That's what happened. You don't have to apologize or live in regret. You didn't walk away the lone survivor of a plane crash. You won an NBA Championship after decades, ing decades of abuse, denial and utter failure. You have to permit it to leave your head and enter your heart. Until you do that, you're missing it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

^The fact you truly believe that and take everything about the NBA as seriously as you take that post is really pathetic tbh

[Giuseppe]

Audit my , !

Okay, twink, let's meet this afternoon. Any Motel 6 of your choosing. I'll bring the "balloons"...you bring the Jergens & lunch.

[Giuseppe]

^The fact you truly believe that and take everything about the NBA as seriously as you take that post is really pathetic tbh

You're O & 43. You're innately ignorant. If you rang, you'd do exactly what Mav's Fan have failed to do. Your predicament is keenly aligned with their predicament, prior to this past June. You'd come home to the Suns. Like you have forsaken the Suns, a goodly portion of these Mavs guys forsaked the Mavs this past Spring and now they feel about coming home. Nonsense. Everybody strays, cept maybe Celtic Fan. Everybody else strays, if not physically, then mentally and most assuredly emotionally. There is no shame in that. And there is no shame in coming home when Pappy says so. And Pappy (in this case Cuban, Kidd, et al) says so.

[mavsfan1000]

You don't compare them in the light of your Championship. That event cuts the bridge to the "Harris's & Howard's." It's sad, I admit. I personally thought you couldn't win without those two. I lamented their absence. But, they were in reality part of the problem, not the solution. They failed time & again. Unlike Pop with his Bonner and his RJ--Cuban saw the error of his ways and cut the bridge, and came out on the other side. That's what happened. You don't have to apologize or live in regret. You didn't walk away the lone survivor of a plane crash. You won an NBA Championship after decades, ing decades of abuse, denial and utter failure. You have to permit it to leave your head and enter your heart. Until you do that, you're missing it.

Winning a championship is like sweeping all the dirt under the bed. Just because you won doesn't mean everyone made your team better. It just means they did enough to avoid defeat. Kidd was rather neutral in the playoffs while everyone else put us over the top. Chandler being the beast that we never had as a center. Haywood being the best backup center we ever had. And you are right about Howard. He turned out to be a headcase.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You're O & 43. You're innately ignorant. If you rang, you'd do exactly what Mav's Fan have failed to do. Your predicament is keenly aligned with their predicament, prior to this past June. You'd come home to the Suns. Like you have forsaken the Suns, a goodly portion of these Mavs guys forsaked the Mavs this past Spring and now they feel about coming home. Nonsense. Everybody strays, cept maybe Celtic Fan. Everybody else strays, if not physically, then mentally and most assuredly emotionally. There is no shame in that. And there is no shame in coming home when Pappy says so. And Pappy (in this case Cuban, Kidd, et al) says so.

If the Suns ring, I'll have as many NBA championships as I do right now. None.


The difference is, the Lakers are seriously the only bright spot in your life. You need to live through them or your life is even more empty.

[Giuseppe]

Winning a championship is like sweeping all the dirt under the bed.

There is nothing else. The dirt will always be under there. All the regrets=Donald Carter's white cowboy hat. The broken promise of Tarpley. The catastrophe of '06. The belief in Howard and his cowardice in your belief. The false positive of Harris. All of it.

You wanted it clean & proper & upright with Harris and Howard not suc bing to failure. Instead you got it because Nowitski at 15 down did not go quietly. Instead he took every single soul with him. You got it because mongrels like Stevenson and Barea were close enough to the Bryant's and Wade's and LeBron's. And you know what else? The Stevenson's and Barea's ing knew it. How did they know that? Because Carlisle and Cuban told them they were.

[Giuseppe]

If the Suns ring, I'll have as many NBA championships as I do right now. None.

BS. You'll come home.

& I won't grudge it.

It's my religion.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

If the Suns win a championship, I won't be able to put "NBA Champion" on my resume for jobs I apply for.

[Giuseppe]

If the Suns win a championship, I won't be able to put "NBA Champion" on my resume for jobs I apply for.

Right. You'll keep it closer than "that job." You'll take it to the grave.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'll get trashed and celebrate it for a few weeks. Then, just like all the players do, I'll move on.

[Giuseppe]

I'll get trashed and celebrate it for a few weeks. Then, just like all the players do, I'll move on.

Of course. It'll rest in your heart then....and you'll say to yourself:::"that old Cubby was right afterall." & you'll be proud & good.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

It depends. If they win a championship with Sarver as the owner, I honest to god can't see myself being happy with that man holding up the O'brien trophy. Colangelo was a owner but his heart was in the right place and he was just too gd stupid to get the team where it needed to be, Sarver winning a championship would be someone winning something he doesn't deserve.

[Giuseppe]

It depends. If they win a championship with Sarver as the owner, I honest to god can't see myself being happy with that man holding up the O'brien trophy. Colangelo was a owner but his heart was in the right place and he was just too gd stupid to get the team where it needed to be, Sarver winning a championship would be someone winning something he doesn't deserve.

Nonsense. You're young & "spoiled." If they ring next June, you'd be 100% immersed in it. Not here because you'd be embarassed in front of me and your fellows. But, you'd go to another situation and be Champion in the finest traditions. Here? Here you'd act reserved, distant and dignified while flipping back & forth to where you'd be raising , honest & Champion.

Ain't nothin' wrong with that. The only thing that truly matters is making the playoffs & winning the last game you play. There is nothing else.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Maybe, but I don't see myself ever cheering for the Steve Nash/Robert Sarver combo again (largely because it's never going to win a championship). I've gotten so sick of it.

As for the actually question in this thread, the Dennis Johnson trade is easily the worst Suns trade of all time. Classic example of Colangelo dismantling a team before ever giving it a real chance. The 1983 Suns won 53 games and were upset in the 1st round largely because of a Mo Lucas injury and inexperience together.

Colangelo then decides Dennis Johnson should be traded for Rick Robey because they need big men when they already had James Edwards, Mo Lucas, Alvan Adams, and Larry Nance (maybe the most well balanced and complete front line the Suns have ever had).

Next season Robey never plays because they already had plenty of bigs better than him, yet they still make the conference finals and lose a compe ive 6 game series to LA largely because Kyle Macy got completely undressed by Magic. Maybe they lose to LA anyway as LA was the much better team, but the DJ trade was by far the dumbest and most inexplicable trade in Suns history.

[DMC]

Bruce Bowen, Fabricio Oberto, and Kurt Thomas for Richard Jefferson. Even I was stoked about it at the time, but in hindsight, we gave up Spurs Defense for .

[DMC]

go dildo yourself in the ass with the barrel of a mossberg, then pull the trigger

Is the Mossberg the only shotgun you've ever heard of? You do realize it's a cheap Walmart piece of , right?

[mavsfan1000]

There is nothing else. The dirt will always be under there. All the regrets=Donald Carter's white cowboy hat. The broken promise of Tarpley. The catastrophe of '06. The belief in Howard and his cowardice in your belief. The false positive of Harris. All of it.

You wanted it clean & proper & upright with Harris and Howard not suc bing to failure. Instead you got it because Nowitski at 15 down did not go quietly. Instead he took every single soul with him. You got it because mongrels like Stevenson and Barea were close enough to the Bryant's and Wade's and LeBron's. And you know what else? The Stevenson's and Barea's ing knew it. How did they know that? Because Carlisle and Cuban told them they were.

Harris being on the worst team in the league was the problem. Terry had that exact same problem btw and he turned out great for Dallas. Howard was the only one sucking on a team that had championship hopes. Putting Harris in the same boat with Howard is ridiculous.

[Jodelo]

So, Harris could have defended Kobe, Durant, Wade and Lebron? Good luck...

[Giuseppe]

Maybe, but I don't see myself ever cheering for the Steve Nash/Robert Sarver combo again (largely because it's never going to win a championship). I've gotten so sick of it.

If sports/life has taught us anything:::anything is possible.

You're just insulating yourself against failure. It's understandable after 43 years of denial.

& at ringage I'd sneek down to a place and bear witness to "your" catharsis.

I thought I'd be witness to Mavs Fan cathartic moments, but, it never happened here. I'd at least have somewhere to go Internet wise to see it (Sose's Joint). Can ya imagine it there?It would be something else again to see it there. That's ground zero in my estimation.

[elemento]

Scola for cap space and Vaginalis is by far the worst

The RJ trade was not that bad. At the time, pretty much every Spur fan agreed that is was a nice gamble.

Resigning him for 4y/39m was bad though.

[mavsfan1000]

So, Harris could have defended Kobe, Durant, Wade and Lebron? Good luck...

That's why we have Marion and Stevenson. All Harris had to do is guard the point guards.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Cully idk why we're really arguing about this since neither Nash (with the Suns) nor Sarver will ever win a championship. Since Sarver didn't get the hard cap he wanted, he's going to be trying to sell the team. Once that happens I'll start cheering for the Suns again good or bad.

[Leetonidas]

Kidd trade was important. @ this re acting like Marion/Haywood/Stevenson are some kinda big three that Harris is missing out on playing with. Those players work well because they have a PG with elite, possible some of the greatest court vision in the history of the league running the show not to mention great defense. Harris ing blows dude, a broke man's Tony Parker. Get over it.