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    Vanilla mayo ftw....

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    Vanilla mayo ftw....


    oddly enough, it is only the scent. I can eat vanilla ice cream.

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    But the parents aren't controlling what their kids eat when they're at school. Packing a lunch is kind of ridiculous when kids don't have access to refrigerators. Would you want to eat a stinking piece of chicken that's been sitting out for 5 hours? Bacteria grows like on food between 40 and 140 degrees.
    There's nothing wrong with packing a lunch as there many items to serve cold or at room temperature. There are also insulated containers that keep food cold enough to prevent growth of bacteria.

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    Parents tend their sick children all the time. You can characterize everything as condescending with that standard. Dieticians and nutritionists are real occupations as well. Instead of looking at it like 'daddy' look at it like nutritionist and you can get over it. The food is unhealthy . If nothing else call for it to be shut down if you want to about any federal involvement in anything.
    Do parents administer x-rays? I don't think so. That's the logic strain that was used by someone else, and that is what I was arguing. I have no idea how to respond to the rest of your rant.

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    I am sorry, but this is a bit of a bad argument. I (or my wife) pack my daughter's lunch every day. I ate packed lunches when I was a kid. There is nothing wrong with it. In fact, it is even better nowadays with the cooler bags and those refreezeable cold packs.
    This is the gist of her what we pack for her.

    A ham and cheese/turkey and cheese/roast beef and cheese, etc. sandwich with mayo, tomato and lettuce.

    A yogurt,

    A cut up apple/orange/grapes

    Then for snack time:

    A cheese stick / bag of gold fish / or something of the sort.

    For a drink at each meal, we have those fruitables that I was talking about upstream


    If we have leftovers that she really liked or wants, we will send a small tupperware of that with her and if it is something that needs to be kept cold, we put one of those ice packs in with her lunch.

    Her "lunch box" is a "cooler bag" that is shaped like a purse that keeps the stuff pretty cool.

    Oh and to be clear, this is very similar to my lunch most of the time (minus the mayo - disgusting), so I make sure to keep switching out the meats, cheese, and fruit that we have to keep things new.

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    I do want to say that despite the fact that I do this, I still am all for regulations that public ins utions should be providing far more healthy options and far fewer unhealthy options. If for whatever reason I cannot make lunch, I cannot be there to choose the one (maybe) healthy option that is offered amongst the 7 or 8 unhealthy options. Additionally, the packing the lunch thing costs more than a reduced or free lunch. If I was to ever have to take advantage of the program, the same argument applies. Lastly, I am in the minority, and its not some of the kids' fault that their parents suck, yet they are suffering.

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    Are parents responsible for administering x-rays? I just don't think the reasoning proves out, because it's within the realm of expertise and ultimate responsibility for parents to control what their kids eat. I think there's some tolerance for when the federal government plays "doctor", but there's understandably less when it plays "daddy".

    This isn't about controlling what parents give their children is it? It's about what schools give the children. In that context, the logic does indeed prove out. You as a parent want the same assurance that good nutritional standards are being met at your child's school, just as you would like for your friendly radiologist to follow good radiation limiting protocols when deciding which exam is best for you. Both necessarily entiail some broad oversight.

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    I do want to say that despite the fact that I do this, I still am all for regulations that public ins utions should be providing far more healthy options and far fewer unhealthy options. If for whatever reason I cannot make lunch, I cannot be there to choose the one (maybe) healthy option that is offered amongst the 7 or 8 unhealthy options. Additionally, the packing the lunch thing costs more than a reduced or free lunch. If I was to ever have to take advantage of the program, the same argument applies. Lastly, I am in the minority, and its not some of the kids' fault that their parents suck, yet they are suffering.
    Maybe that's part of the problem.

    If kids are getting reduced or free lunches, then they should qualify for food stamps also. Maybe the solution is not to have reduced or free lunches since the families are already getting subsidies.

    I say make the parents pack a lunch if they can't afford the meal price.

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    If Oregon implemented the polices, I wouldn't argue like I am now. I am a firm believer in States Rights, and people who want an ever growing federal government really piss me off.
    At least you came clean.

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    Maybe that's part of the problem.

    If kids are getting reduced or free lunches, then they should qualify for food stamps also. Maybe the solution is not to have reduced or free lunches since the families are already getting subsidies.

    I say make the parents pack a lunch if they can't afford the meal price.
    You know what a bigger problem is? You not do any sort of research before posting. Qualifying for reduced or free lunch does not automatically make one eligible for food stamps.

    Even if it were true, what you posted here makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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    You know what a bigger problem is? You not do any sort of research before posting. Qualifying for reduced or free lunch does not automatically make one eligible for food stamps.

    Even if it were true, what you posted here makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
    Just the same, people need to be responsible for their kids health and not expect the government to be Nanny.

    I agree it would be best to have the schools offer healthier options. I just want to see the federal governments intrusion in our lives become less. Not more. Why si it soo hard to address this at a local level?

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    Maybe that's part of the problem.

    If kids are getting reduced or free lunches, then they should qualify for food stamps also. Maybe the solution is not to have reduced or free lunches since the families are already getting subsidies.

    I say make the parents pack a lunch if they can't afford the meal price.
    This is untrue. Thanks for playing.
    Would you like to continue with your (consistently false) assumptions?

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    WC often muses ex tempore. Is there an intellectual equivalent of skinny dippin?

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    WC often muses ex tempore. Is there an intellectual equivalent of skinny dippin?
    Don't associate good times with WC...

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    Just the same, people need to be responsible for their kids health and not expect the government to be Nanny.

    I agree it would be best to have the schools offer healthier options. I just want to see the federal governments intrusion in our lives become less. Not more. Why si it soo hard to address this at a local level?
    I agree with that in principle. I think your real argument is with the concept of school lunches themselves rather than their content. If you always come back to "parents responsibility" , then abolishing the school lunch program is what you should be pushing.

    Why not at a local level? Because the nutritional needs of a kid in NJ are largely the same as one in WY. Its critical that standards be exactly that, standard.

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    @ Drachen

    lol

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    Don't worry, I got ya the first time.

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    I just meant that his arguments, such as they are, are often brutal, dirty and shabbily dressed.

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    WC often muses ex tempore. Is there an intellectual equivalent of skinny dippin?
    Being ing re ed is the common vernacular, I believe.

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    Don't worry, I got ya the first time.
    Got you, too. Hence lol.

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    I just meant that his arguments, such as they are, are often brutal, dirty and shabbily dressed.

    LOL
    Being ing re ed is the common vernacular, I believe.
    True, there he goes using his roach logic.

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    @LNGR:

    It was in my childhood, too, but can't we settle on a cliche that's somewhat less brutally offensive to people who have legit mental development issues? This is after all a public forum and not a locker room or even a sub locker room.


    (Just us chickens in here, boss.)

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    feel free to disregard, LNGR. just wanted to register strong feelings on this count.

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    it's bad manners

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