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    marriage is a religious concept and gays don't need to be "married" in order to live together and be in a relationship together.

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    marriage is a religious concept and gays don't need to be "married" in order to live together and be in a relationship together.
    But there's no good reason why they can't be "married" either.

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    Marriage has been around since Ancient Greece. It's not a Christian or religious concept at all.

    It's just something dominionists credit to Christianity, similar to how they claim the Cons ution and Declaration of Independence were Christian Do ents.

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    marriage is a religious concept and gays don't need to be "married" in order to live together and be in a relationship together.
    Even if that were the case there are all kinds of religions out there. its just that the Levites were all no and they say everyone else is full of .

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    Ancient Greece's version of marriage wasn't like the definition used throughout history since then. In ancient greece, marriages were arranged and done for financial purposes. The man "bought" the woman from her parents in order to bear children, and the wife was required to stay home and take care of the children while the men went out and were promiscuous. it wasn't this modern marriage based on love at all, totally different then what "marriage" is today and has been for thousands of years for all intensive purposes. nice straw man though.

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    But there's no good reason why they can't be "married" either.
    there is actually. marriage is a religious concept and religion defines it as a union between a man and a woman, gays don't need to undermine religion and say look at me world, you're forced to accept my way! in order to be happy. give me a good reason why gays can't just be together without having the church bless it?

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    Do you even know what a strawman is? Correcting your inaccurate knowledge of marriage isn't what a strawman is at all.

    Regardless of how you define marriage, it's been around longer than Christianity is. I know you're a brainwashed little bible bot and you think everything good in society was created based off Christian values, but the Greeks get credit for inventing marriage.

    One thing Christians have always been staunch advocates for is slavery though. That's something I can't take away from them.

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    there is actually. marriage is a religious concept and religion defines it as a union between a man and a woman, gays don't need to undermine religion and say look at me world, you're forced to accept my way! in order to be happy. give me a good reason why gays can't just be together without having the church bless it?
    No one ever said the Church had to bless it or had to recognize it. Only the government should have to.

    Even though the bible advocates slavery, I don't think the Church blessed all the slave practice in America prior to the Civil War.

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    Do you even know what a strawman is? Correcting your inaccurate knowledge of marriage isn't what a strawman is at all.

    Regardless of how you define marriage, it's been around longer than Christianity is. I know you're a brainwashed little bible bot and you think everything good in society was created based off Christian values, but the Greeks get credit for inventing marriage.

    One thing Christians have always been staunch advocates for is slavery though. That's something I can't take away from them.
    yeah i know what a strawman is, and your saying "but but the greeks actually invented marriage!" is just that. the greeks didn't invent marriage, it was more of a special type of slave ownership. the man bought the woman to bear kids, it wasn't "marriage" in the way it is defined and has been defined for thousands of years. go somewhere else with your weak little talk.

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    slave ownership? Sounds pretty Christian to me.

    And no that's not what a strawman is at all. Try again.

    Lets also not act like Christian marriage was always two consenting adults from day 1. Christian marriage has had plenty of polygamy and arranged marriages.

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    Btw, seeing that you want to eventually, you should probably keep your phobic views to yourself if you ever plan on working for a Big 4 accounting firm or any other semi-credible accounting firm. They all make a huge effort to advocate gay rights and hire openly gay people.

    The country is progressing away from phobia more and more every day, the people who refuse to move away from it will look more and more like neanderthals.

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    A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position, twisting his words or by means of [false] assumptions.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.[1][2] Generally, the straw man is a highly exaggerated[citation needed] or over-simplified version of the opponent's original statement, which has been distorted to the point of absurdity. This exaggerated or distorted statement is thus easily argued against, but is a misrepresentation of the opponent's actual statement.

    Pretty sure i said marriage was a religious concept, and you drawing the false conclusion that the Greeks invented marriage as we know it was the straw man. I still stand by what I say too, what the Greeks did wasn't marriage at all. It was ownership.

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    I'm not twisting your words at all, I'm simply disputing what you're saying. Not a strawman at all.

    You're saying marriage is a religious concept, I'm saying it's a concept invented by the ancient greeks.

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    Btw, seeing that you want to eventually, you should probably keep your phobic views to yourself if you ever plan on working for a Big 4 accounting firm or any other semi-credible accounting firm. They all make a huge effort to advocate gay rights and hire openly gay people.

    The country is progressing away from phobia more and more every day, the people who refuse to move away from it will look more and more like neanderthals.
    wasn't planning on asking the interviewer if he too was a gay hating mother er! when i walked in for an interview ya . unless you're implying that my spurstalk posts will be used against me rofl.

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    wasn't planning on asking the interviewer if he too was a gay hating mother er! when i walked in for an interview ya . unless you're implying that my spurstalk posts will be used against me rofl.
    Seeing how passionately you hate gays ya never know.

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    there is actually. marriage is a religious concept and religion defines it as a union between a man and a woman, gays don't need to undermine religion and say look at me world, you're forced to accept my way! in order to be happy. give me a good reason why gays can't just be together without having the church bless it?
    Who said a church has to bless it?

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    I'm not twisting your words at all, I'm simply disputing what you're saying. Not a strawman at all.

    You're saying marriage is a religious concept, I'm saying it's a concept invented by the ancient greeks.
    ya made up the part about greeks inventing marriage to discredit my original post without ever actually addressing it. that was your straw man. regardless of what you think my original point still stands, marriage is a religious concept and gays don't need to be married in order to be together. they need to just make a law where any type of common law union gets the same rights as a marriage and just leave it alone.

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    Who said a church has to bless it?
    eehhh whatever

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    they need to just make a law where any type of common law union gets the same rights as a marriage and just leave it alone.
    so a "separate but equal" type of marriage? Hmmm, that sounds familiar.



    Of course, the Jim Crow Laws were also Christian ideas.

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    eehhh whatever
    So no one said a church has to bless it.

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    Whatever I'm not in the mood to argue with the Brigade, obviously gay rights are a very sensitive and important subject to you two and I insincerely apologize for stepping on any toes. Maybe you 2 could go grab a beer together?

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    Whatever I'm not in the mood to argue with the Brigade, obviously gay rights are a very sensitive and important subject to you two and I insincerely apologize for stepping on any toes. Maybe you 2 could go grab a beer together?
    No need to pout, princess.

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    You two could have a beer and a laugh about how you totally owned that backwards redneck neanderthal and showed him what real progressive butt ers are all about!

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    Whatever I'm not in the mood to argue with the Brigade, obviously gay rights are a very sensitive and important subject to you two and I insincerely apologize for stepping on any toes. Maybe you 2 could go grab a beer together?
    We're not the ones taking two people we'll never meet getting married so personally and interpreting it as a slap in our face.

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