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No. That would be salary-cap cir vention.
It's the same contract. If I understand it correctly, teams bid for the amnestied player and take on whatever percentage of the salary is required to get them on the team. The Spurs should be able to bid for RJ, but the total would be exactly what they owe him over the same period of time. It would be like bidding on your own ebay auction.
No. That would be salary-cap cir vention.
I doubt it, mavs have 3 players who can play the 3: marion, brewster, rudy fernandez....
Does anyone think that a team with cap space will claim some portion of RJ's contract? I could see a team like the Kings, Nets, or Clippers offering to pay $2-3M per year; that's a pretty good deal for someone of RJ's talent level, and those teams need some scoring anyway. This would save the Spurs some money both on the tax and in having to pay RJ less.
Teams under the cap that will be able to bid for Jefferson's services:
1. Washington: $34.4 million
2. Denver: $33 million
3. Indiana: $28.5 million
4. Sacramento: $26.2 million
5. New Jersey: $23.1 million
6. Toronto: $17.7 million
7. Golden State: $16 million
8. Detroit: $14-$19 million
9. L.A. Clippers: $13.1 million
10. Charlotte: $13 million
11. New Orleans: $12.6 million
12. Milwaukee: $12.2 million
13. Minnesota: $11.4 million
14. Houston: $6.8 million
15. Memphis: $5.1 million
16. Phoenix: $3.25 million
17. Oklahoma City: $3.1 million
18. Philly: 2.65 million
As you can see many teams are very well under the cap, which was probably the reason for the Spurs' decision-- Jefferson should and will be bidded on.
YES. He's not gonna be unemployed. 11pts/game is a great stat, it's just not great at 9mil a year.
oh, and 11pts blows when it takes 9 shots to get there.
Im peeing in my pants just thinking that if we dont get another competent bigman Leonard will undoubtly play some 4! Ouch
By that logic Duncan would get his 20mil and whatever he would sign for...
Well this is interesting. I was hoping the Spurs could work out a trade with him for Kaman.
Guess this means the Spurs either think Tiago and Tim with Blair and Bonner will be enough frontcourt depth (please ing no) or they have something cooking for a bigman trade because all these rumors of us pursuing SFs makes no sense. But, at least Caron is a tough mf'er, he'd add some fire and toughness to our soft team.
You know, there's a real possibility RJ gets 5mil a yr, if that happens that means we only owe 4/yr. Talk about erasing a good portion of your mistakes.
Is anyone else not happy? I mean I hate RJ but now we are looking for a player who will fill his spot. It will likely be a lateral move, and we are still thin up front. If we released him to use midlevel on a decent big I would understand but is caron really that much of an upgrade? I hope they got a little more up their sleeve if this is true.
So RJ is the biggest story of the Spurs offseason for the third consecutive year:
2009- trading for RJ
2010- opting out and then resigning
2011- amnesty
Bad things happen when you get away from what works for you. The Spurs always managed their money carefully and stayed right around the luxury tax line. With the RJ trade they blew through that threshold by several million dollars. To avoid paying millions more in luxury tax, they restructured RJ's deal in 2010. To avoid keeping a poor fit, they have now used the amnesty on RJ in 2011.
I'm surprised that they bit the bullet on RJ so early rather than holding out for a trade, but credit has to go ownership and the FO for doing so. Financial implications aside, this allows the organization to move past the RJ experiment without surrendering basketball assets such as draft picks or young players on rookie contracts.
Now if they could only make Bonner disappear....
Right, under the assumption waiving someone and resigning was possible, I suggested timmy would be a more viable candidate if the sole goal was to remove as much salary off the books. And of course assuming the minimum was negligible, though i have no idea what the minimum would be for someone who has been in the season for as long as timmy.
So timmy still gets his 20 mil, gets resigned for 300k, (ok we both know its not 300k but something small), and we remove 20mil (but add 300k) to the books.
Then maybe timmy does us a solid by staying another couple years at the minimum again.
But obviously this scenario with timmy or any other player is not possible under the amnesty clause.
I don't like it either... I don't think we should be looking for a SF... we need size/defense inside above all. I think between Dany Green/Leonard, and even shifting Bonner there (he plays on the perimeter anyways) can man the position when we're not just playing small with Neal/Tony/Manu...
So RC was sober this time?
Someone's getting Caron Butler, and the other teams are going to be competing for the rest of the crop of small forwards out there. RJ's as attractive an option for those teams as anyone else available, even for up to and beyond the MLE.
That's true. A lot of people have been talking about how a lot FA's will end up overpaid because of the slim pickings.
I would like this a lot better if we end up getting a real big. Caron's a nice replacement and he is a tough dude but is injury prone and 31 years old coming off a huge injury. His 3 pt shooting sucks compared to RJ. I really hope we get Caron and a big like Kaman or Nene. Please no more of these undersized Cs.
As much as people here hate on RJ, he's not a terrible player - he just wasn't a fit in this system. Sadly, I'd love to see RJ go to the Clippers if they manage to trade for CP3 ... Griffin AND RJ on a fast break? , even if he goes to Dallas and plays with Kidd again, that'd be scary.
I agree with the sentiment, but you have to look at the market. Let's say we go with what we got at SF and devote the full MLE to a PF/C. What's out there that could really help? It may be that real help at PF/C can only come via the trade route. In that case, using the MLE on a SF makes good basketball sense. (Although I'm shocked at Holt's loose purse strings after crying poverty for so long in the CBA negotiations.)
With all the chatter about Kaman and Nene, I haven't looked at the best possible big for the MLE. A guy like McRoberts could probably be had for less. I dunno.
If the Spurs could somehow manage to land Butler and Kaman....
The Spurs definitely still have work to do on the front line. There just aren't many bigs out there for the MLE. The demand for a good big man is shooting their value up past the MLE mark.
I just get the feeling that if Holt puts that money down, he won't be willing to take on a contract as part of a trade for a big, which it's somewhat of a necessity if you want to land something serviceable. Being under the lux tax, now they can pull a 150% salary match rule which expands the possibility for a trade. But I don't think Holt will want to go over the lux tax if he can avoid it.
Yeah, now that they're under the line, I can't see them going over it. Then again, I thought the RJ trade would never happen and that they wouldn't use the amnesty this year. The Spurs were more predictable before acquiring RJ.
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