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    TP got Finals MVP in '07.

    Read "majority"

    Two finals mvps in the last 20 years were pgs

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    We won 5 championships with Fisher....pg is the most overrated position in the game
    Funny, it seems that having a bunch of crappy PGs last season dommed yall against the Mavs.

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    Warning to CoM: Tony Parker is John Stockton compared to TJ Ford. Prepare to demand his head on a platter three games into the regular season.
    I wonder who would feel insulted more. Tony Parker has piss-poor PG instincts/court vision, but has a ton of rings and mvp on top. While Stockton is a selfless pure playmaker, all time assist leader but doesnt have one piece of hardware to show for it.

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    Dont like it. We are talking about a guy who got benched for AJ Price in INDIANA.

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    True, but there must be better options out there right? Admittingly I haven't really followed the NBA since like game 4 of the first round vs. the Grizzles so I don't really know/remember who else is a FA right now. I guess I'll wait for Timvp's list of top FA for the spurs.
    Not unless you're a Telfair fan (he's rumored on his way to the Suns). Ford has historically been a better scorer anyway. Watson isn't that type of player, he's like a better version of Vaughn. They could have waited for Robinson's buyout to be completed, but he's likely to cost more than the veteran's minimum. Or they could have waited to see if Mills get's cut, but he's less proven and that may not happen until near the end of camp.

    He may not be a great fit, but he'll probably be the third PG, used during hectic stretches to keep Parker's minutes down and the odd time to sit him out entirely. He may have lost a half step, but he's still a quick PG, capable of getting in the lane and providing some scoring. And they're going to need those qualities when they limit Parker's minutes or sit him out, especially if that's done in tandem with Ginobili.

    You may not like it, but it's not like it's going to greatly alter the team's fortunes. Best case scenario is, he helps them win a few games during hectic stretches, which would help their seeding. Worst case scenario is, he's the 11-12 version of Stoudemire.

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    If TJ Ford could channel Speedy Claxton, then I'm down. If he can't well... at least he's from Texas?

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    That was 20+ years ago, just a thought. The game has changed drastically since then, and the majority of nba champions since have had meh pg's:

    Bj armstrong
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    I wonder who would feel insulted more. Tony Parker has piss-poor PG instincts/court vision, but has a ton of rings and mvp on top. While Stockton is a selfless pure playmaker, all time assist leader but doesnt have one piece of hardware to show for it.
    What do you think of TJ Ford? I know you're a PG purist, so what would you say if the Spurs signed Ford?

    edit : lol maybe we shouldn't touch him because I just typed RJ Ford before editing it.

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    Funny, it seems that having a bunch of crappy PGs last season dommed yall against the Mavs.
    Funny, it seems you forgot Pau's menstrual cramps in the playoffs.

    Speaking of great pg's, we sure couldve used a former finals mvp who was used as a rag by mike conley

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    i approve of this signing.

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    What do you think of TJ Ford? I know you're a PG purist, so what would you say if the Spurs signed Ford?

    edit : lol maybe we shouldn't touch him because I just typed RJ Ford before editing it.
    He can run an offense, has a slightly worse jumpshot than TP, slightly better court vision than TP. With that said, I wanted him as a backup for a while. I dont want neal or Manu doing that.

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    Warning to CoM: Tony Parker is John Stockton compared to TJ Ford. Prepare to demand his head on a platter three games into the regular season.
    How long you expect him to play IF the Spurs bite?

    I'm getting ready to see Tony and Manu alternate the starter PG duties on back2back days. I can only envision him getting over 10 mpg on back2back2back, and there's only two of those all season long.

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    Funny, it seems you forgot Pau's menstrual cramps in the playoffs.

    Speaking of great pg's, we sure couldve used a former finals mvp who was used as a rag by mike conley
    How about an entire defending champion quad being the " rag" of the Mavs?


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    WTF? Ford sucks. He's a ballhog who isn't really good at anything. He's like if Jacque Vaughn didn't try on defense, dribbled 20 times more often and shot every other time he touched it.

    Over the last couple years, he's been the worst PG in the league.

    Pop and RC lost their fastballs a long time ago, LJ. I don't know what more proof you need of that. The drafts the past few years, the free agent signings, RJ... these guys clearly no longer have their fingers on the pulse of who can play and who cannot. Their track record these past five years has been awful. AWFUL. Riding Big Three for years and years and surrounding them with players who are awful defensively, don't rebound, can't create shots for themselves or others and come up small when it matters most. I mean you talk about basketball tools and most of the guys they get are one tool players at best. Their talent evaluation skills are garbage.

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    Pop and RC lost their fastballs a long time ago, LJ. I don't know what more proof you need of that. The drafts the past few years, the free agent signings, RJ... these guys clearly no longer have their fingers on the pulse of who can play and who cannot. Their track record these past five years has been awful. AWFUL. Riding Big Three for years and years and surrounding them with players who are awful defensively, don't rebound, can't create shots for themselves or others and come up small when it matters most. I mean you talk about basketball tools and most of the guys they get are one tool players at best. Their talent evaluation skills are garbage.
    You're saying we miss Sam Presti?

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    How about an entire defending champion quad being the " rag" of the Mavs?

    How about a 61-win veteran-laden team getting skull ed by an 8th seeded Grizzlies franchise that previously had never won a playoff game?




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    How about an entire defending champion quad being the " rag" of the Mavs?

    They got swept because of Pau. If he showed up and took it to dirk 25/10/2 style the Lakers would have won. The Hornets series wouldve been over quicker as well. Pau naturally would have trouble with Dirk, but on the other end Dirk has no chance of guarding Pau. NO CHANCE!!!!!!

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    They got swept because of Pau. If he showed up and took it to dirk 25/10/2 style the Lakers would have won. The Hornets series wouldve been over quicker as well. Pau naturally would have trouble with Dirk, but on the other end Dirk has no chance of guarding Pau. NO CHANCE!!!!!!
    He gets it.

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    Love TJ personally but would not want him on my team. He has never been the same since he got hurt in the game in Atlanta. I promise you will love him 20% of the time and curse him 80%.

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    I'm no Lakers fan by any stretch of the imagination, but no team except maybe the Blazers or the Grizzlies could've beaten them in a seven game series. Point Guards can light up fisher all day(CP3, Nash, D-WIll, Parker, Westbrook and some guy Aaron Brooks) but in the end its all those block shots, post points and offensive putbacks that kill you. Three good bog men beat speedy point guards anytime. You gotta have size to beat the Lakers, or hope the team is going thru one of those fazes (See 2011 Mavs, taking advantage).

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    TJ Ford is living off the rep he had before he fell on his neck one too many times.

    I doubt he could even be a useful 12 minute a night guy on a vet minimum deal.

    But on the plus side, he might be so bad that Pop would consider playing Joseph.
    Have you forgotten how much pop played NVE and Jacque Vaughn when they were bad?

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    Tell me this is just to throw all the other teams off of J.Pargo. Then the spurs move in for the quick signing. Brilliant strategy, IMHO.

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    Have you forgotten how much pop played NVE and Jacque Vaughn when they were bad?
    you're right, you're right.

    That's why I qualified it with 'consider', but you are correct. If Ford was really bad then Pop would play him until they were down 3-1 in the playoffs.

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    Agreed, and that's part of the reason i'm not gung ho about getting Chris Paul. He matters little in the scheme of things. Howard, otoh, ensures that LA will be dominant for years to come. Team up the best defensive big in the game (howard) with one of the best offensive ones (gasol), add Kobe on the wing and it doesnt matter who your pg is. Put stephen hawking at point for all i care.

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